Form of Mist Quetsion 4 LSJ

Is a minion that blocked a bleed taped after the acting minion plays form of Mist. Can the reacting vampire play more intercept. Thanks Droz

"John Ferretti" <pit...@olypen.com> wrote: > Is a minion that blocked a bleed tapped after the acting > minion plays [superior] form of Mist? Well, he was tapped back when he blocked the bleed - before the Form of Mist was played. > Can the reacting [minion] play more intercept? If he's untapped and attempting to block and has less intercept than the acting minion's stealth, yes. In general, the original blocker would need to be Woken or otherwise untap (Guard Dogs, Second Tradition, etc.) to block the action a second time. -- LSJ (vte...@wizards.com) VTES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and DCI (tournament) rules: http://www.wizards.com/VTES/VTES_Rules.html Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

On VTES-L, ....salem.... wrote: > vte...@wizards.com (LSJ) wrote: > >> Can the reacting [minion] play more intercept? > > > >If he's untapped and attempting to block and has less intercept > >than the acting minion's stealth, yes. > > > >In general, the original blocker would need to be Woken or > >otherwise untap (Guard Dogs, Second Tradition, etc.) to block > >the action a second time. > > ummm. i thought guard dogs, and rat's warning, by card > text, could only be played when a bleed against you is > "declared". i thought once you were into the blocking stage > it was somewhat after the declaration, and thus too late > to rat or dog untap. or does superior FoM re-"declare" > the bleed? It's not "the moment a bleed is delared", but rather "when a bleed exists that is declared against you." The bleed (unless it is redirected somehow) is declared against you for the duration of the action. "When you are the target of a bleed" would be a better way of saying it. [ quoted text not captured ]

Colin Gunning wrote: > .....salem..... wrote: > >ummm. i thought guard dogs, and rat's warning, by card > >text, could only be played when a bleed against you is > >"declared". i thought once you were into the blocking > >stage it was somewhat after the declaration, and thus too > >late to rat or dog untap. or does superior FoM > >re-"declare" the bleed? > > When FoM is played the first bleed action is cancelled > when blocked so it restarted as another bleed action so > unless you have another card to awaken you are out of > luck. When FoM is played, it continues the bleed action that is currently in progress. It (the bleed action) now continues "as if unblocked". An action is not cancelled when blocked, and is not "restarted" by Form of Mist. All action modifiers (stealth, for instance) and reaction cards (intercept, for instance) are still in effect, since they apply for the duration of the action by default. If you played a Wake with Evening's Freshness to block the bleed, that would still allow you to re-block the bleed (if you could muster one more intercept), since it is the same action. If you had played an untap card, though, like rats or dogs or Second Tradition, then you would have to find another way of untapping in order to block it a second time (since, after untapping, you would have tapped for the initial block). -- LSJ (vte...@wizards.com) VTES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and DCI (tournament) rules: http://www.wizards.com/VTES/rules.asp [ quoted text not captured ]