Succulent Vitae and Loss

Succulent Vitae: Only usable when a hunt action is successful. Place this card on this acting vampire. When this vampire plays a card that requires Quietus, he or she may burn this card to reduce the cost of that card by 1 blood. Loss: Blood Cost: 1 [qui] (D) Burn an equipment or location on a minion controlled by your predator or prey. [QUI] (D) Bleed at +2 bleed. Rulebook (Lords of the Night) 6.2.3 "If the action is successful (all block attempts were unsuccessful), then the cost of the action is paid..." On a Loss bleed, I want to burn SV to reduce the cost of Loss. Playing an action card, and paying it's cost happen at different times. At which of these times do I burn SV - as I play Loss, or when I pay the blood cost of Loss? If the former, does Loss un-burn (to be usable in combat) if the action is blocked (like Strike with Conviction), or is it just gone?

[ quoted text not captured ] Cost is only paid on a succesdfull action. Yes this trick works. It does not burn if you dont have to pay.

craigs...@gmail.com wrote: > Succulent Vitae: > > Only usable when a hunt action is successful. Place this card on this > acting vampire. When this vampire plays a card that requires Quietus, > he or she may burn this card to reduce the cost of that card by 1 > blood. > On a Loss bleed, I want to burn SV to reduce the cost of Loss. > Playing an action card, and paying it's cost happen at different > times. At which of these times do I burn SV - as I play Loss, or when > I pay the blood cost of Loss? Card text: "When this vampire *plays* a card that requires Quietus". So, when the vampire plays the card. > If the former, does Loss un-burn (to be usable in combat) if the > action is blocked (like Strike with Conviction), or is it just gone? Just gone. Strike with Conviction doesn't un-burn if the action is blocked. It instead isn't burned until later, when the action resolves unblocked.

LSJ wrote: > craigs...@gmail.com wrote: >> Succulent Vitae: >> >> Only usable when a hunt action is successful. Place this card on this >> acting vampire. When this vampire plays a card that requires Quietus, >> he or she may burn this card to reduce the cost of that card by 1 >> blood. ... >> If the former, does Loss un-burn (to be usable in combat) if the >> action is blocked (like Strike with Conviction), or is it just gone? > > Just gone. > > Strike with Conviction doesn't un-burn if the action is blocked. It > instead isn't burned until later, when the action resolves unblocked. And by "does Loss un-burn" I assume we're all actually talking about Succulent Vitae, right? -- salem (replace 'hotmail' with 'gmail' to email)