LSJ: Questions on Tainted Vitae

Hi LSJ, Tainted Vitae Settite Reaction Card 2 Blood Only usable when a vampire controlled by your predator successfully hunts. That vampire gains 2 additional blood (ignore excess blood). For the remainder of the game, that vampire must burn an additional blood when he or she attempts to bleed you. 1) Are Tainted Vitae's stackable? If a vampire hunts twice, Tainted each time, does that vamp now burn 2 to attempt to bleed me? 2) Does the blood burnt for the TV's come before any Action cards? i.e. The above vamp with 2 blood on it attempts to bleed with a Govern. Can the vamp do this? 3) How about Action Mod's like Bonding, etc. In regards to #2. 4) Does the blood burnt by TV's remain burnt even if the bleed action is blocked? Focusing here on the "attempts to bleed". Thanks for your time, Jaysen

Jaysen wrote: > Hi LSJ, Hi. > Tainted Vitae Settite Reaction Card 2 Blood > Only usable when a vampire controlled by your predator > successfully hunts. That vampire gains 2 additional blood (ignore > excess blood). > For the remainder of the game, that vampire must burn an > additional blood when he or she attempts to bleed you. > > 1) Are Tainted Vitae's stackable? If a vampire hunts twice, Tainted > each time, does that vamp now burn 2 to attempt to bleed me? Yes. > 2) Does the blood burnt for the TV's come before any Action cards? Yes. Blood cost of actions is not paid until the action resolves. Blood for Tainted Vitae is burned when the action is attempted (i.e., announced). > i.e. The above vamp with 2 blood on it attempts to bleed > with a Govern. Can the vamp do this? No. > 3) How about Action Mod's like Bonding, etc. In regards to #2. Action Modifiers are played after the action is announced, so after the blood for Tainted Vitae is burned. > 4) Does the blood burnt by TV's remain burnt even if the bleed > action is blocked? Focusing here on the "attempts to bleed". Yes. -- L. Scott Johnson (vte...@regency.wizards.com) Official VtES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. (*) - Subject to review by Rules Team

Jaysen wrote: > > Hi LSJ, "I know!" "I know!" *raises hand wildly...* > 1) Are Tainted Vitae's stackable? If a vampire hunts twice, Tainted > each time, does that vamp now burn 2 to attempt to bleed me? yes! > 2) Does the blood burnt for the TV's come before any Action cards? > i.e. The above vamp with 2 blood on it attempts to bleed > with a Govern. Can the vamp do this? you burn the blood to attempt. then, later on, if the action is successful, you must pay the action's cost. if, by that stage, the vampire acnnot pay the cost, the action fizzles. (so the vamp CAN play a govern TU to bleed, it'll just fail.) > 3) How about Action Mod's like Bonding, etc. In regards to #2. bonding is free. if you mean conditioning, then the vampire burns (in the above case) 2 blood to attempt, and then may not play conditioning, as it will cost that vampire a blood it does not have. action modifier cards must be paid for when they are played, action cards are only paid for when resolving a successful action. > 4) Does the blood burnt by TV's remain burnt even if the bleed > action is blocked? Focusing here on the "attempts to bleed". sure does. as does any blood burned to play action modifiers. or the one blood burned to attempt a political action if "beurocratic overload" was in play, etc... ^^^^^^^^ i think my spelling's out, here..... but anyway....i hope that'll help until LSJ can reply with some real answers... salem christ....

Hi Scott, One question on your response... L. Scott Johnson <vte...@regency.wizards.com> wrote in article <336DD0...@regency.wizards.com>... > Jaysen wrote: > > 1) Are Tainted Vitae's stackable? If a vampire hunts twice, Tainted > > each time, does that vamp now burn 2 to attempt to bleed me? > > Yes. > > > 2) Does the blood burnt for the TV's come before any Action cards? > > Yes. Blood cost of actions is not paid until the action resolves. > Blood for Tainted Vitae is burned when the action is attempted > (i.e., announced). > > > i.e. The above vamp with 2 blood on it attempts to bleed > > with a Govern. Can the vamp do this? > > No. It has been my impression that the above vampire could attempt this action, and that the action would then fail (for lack of blood). Is this incorrect? Algustas -- I can't believe we staked the Antedeluvian...

Algustas wrote: > L. Scott Johnson <vte...@regency.wizards.com> wrote in article > <336DD0...@regency.wizards.com>... > > Jaysen wrote: > > > 2) Does the blood burnt for the TV's come before any Action cards? > > > > Yes. Blood cost of actions is not paid until the action resolves. > > Blood for Tainted Vitae is burned when the action is attempted > > (i.e., announced). > > > > > i.e. The above vamp with 2 blood on it attempts to bleed > > > with a Govern. Can the vamp do this? > > No. > > It has been my impression that the above vampire could attempt this > action, and that the action would then fail (for lack of blood). Is this > incorrect? Correct. Sorry for the overly short (and thus incorrect) answer. The vampire *can* attempt a govern the unaligned action, but will burn the two blood for Tainted Vitae before the action resolves, so will not be able to pay for the Govern and the action will fizzle. [ quoted text not captured ]

Algustas wrote: > > Hi Scott, > One question on your response... > > L. Scott Johnson <vte...@regency.wizards.com> wrote in article > <336DD0...@regency.wizards.com>... > > Jaysen wrote: > > > > > 2) Does the blood burnt for the TV's come before any Action cards? > > > > Yes. Blood cost of actions is not paid until the action resolves. > > Blood for Tainted Vitae is burned when the action is attempted > > (i.e., announced). > > > > > i.e. The above vamp with 2 blood on it attempts to bleed > > > with a Govern. Can the vamp do this? > > > > No. > > It has been my impression that the above vampire could attempt this > action, and that the action would then fail (for lack of blood). Is this > incorrect? > > Algustas Meth 1: "My vampire will tap and burn a blood....Do you want to block?" Prey: "Nah, you can do that..." -- Jeffrey Endres Undergrad B. Eng (Aerospace Avionics) Queensland University of Technology "All human actions are equivalent ... and ... all are on principle doomed to failure." Jean-Paul Sartre (Being and Nothingness, Conclusion, sct. 2)