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(LSJ) Cancel a strike without new declaration

3 messages from 3 participants · 24 June 2009
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floppyzedolfin

Hello, While performing searches for another rule question, I noticed that there is a difference amongst cancelling cards when it comes to cancelling strikes. Some of them allow the minion who attempted to play a strike card to declare a new strike. Others don't have that explicit cardtext. So, here's the question: If I cancel my opponent's Majesty with Dark Influences, can her vampire declare another strike (Staredown or hands, for instance) ? === Here are some examples of such cards : Direct Intervention Cardtype: Master Cost: 1 pool Master: out-of-turn. Cancel a minion card as it is played. No cost is paid. (If it was an action card, the acting minion doesn't tap. If it was a strike card, the minion chooses another strike.) The Jones Cardtype: Combat Discipline: Serpentis Only usable in combat with an ally or younger vampire. [SER] Cancel the opposing minion's strike card as it is played. (No cost is paid, and the minion chooses another strike). A vampire may play only one The Jones at superior each round. Watenda Cardtype: Vampire Clan: Malkavian Group: 2 Capacity: 3 Discipline: obf Camarilla: Once each combat, Watenda can cancel the effect of a combat card the opposing minion plays by burning an amount of blood equal to the blood or pool cost of the card. If the card is a strike card, the opposing minion chooses a new strike. ~ Botched Move Cardtype: Combat Only usable as the opposing minion plays a card that requires a Discipline. The opposing minion's controller reveals the top two cards of his or her library (before drawing to replace). If another copy of the same combat card is revealed, the played card is canceled (cost is still paid), the opposing minion takes 1 unpreventable damage, and all revealed copies are burned. A minion may play only one Botched Move each combat. Charismatic Aura Cardtype: Combat Discipline: Auspex & Presence [aus][pre] Burn 1 blood to cancel the opposing minion's strike card or grapple card as it is played (no cost is paid). A vampire may play only one Charismatic Aura at inferior each round. Dark Influences Cardtype: Master Cost: 2 pool Master: out-of-turn. Cancel a minion card as it is played. No cost is paid. That card cannot be played again for the remainder of the turn. Put this card in play. The next card played that would cancel another Methuselah's minion card as it is played is canceled (no cost) and this card is burned instead. Denial of Aphrodite's Favor Cardtype: Combat/Reaction Discipline: Dominate & Fortitude [DOM][FOR] {Cancel} an action modifier or combat card a younger vampire plays that requires Presence [pre] as it is played. ={No cost is paid.}= Hide the Mind Cardtype: Action Modifier/Combat Discipline: Obfuscate [obf] [COMBAT] Cancel a combat card that requires Auspex [aus] as it is played. No cost is paid. Shape Mastery Cardtype: Combat/Reaction Discipline: Protean [pro] [COMBAT] Cancel a combat card that requires Obtenebration [obt], Protean, or Vicissitude [vic] as it is played (no cost is paid). The opposing minion cannot play that card again this action. Supernatural Resistance Cardtype: Combat/Reaction Clan: Burn Option Requires a Laibon with three or more Orun. Tap an Orun on this Laibon to cancel an action card targeting this Laibon or a strike card as it is played. Not usable to cancel a card that doesn't require a Discipline or that requires Celerity [cel] or Potence [pot]. React with Conviction Cardtype: Conviction When an effect that would change control of this imbued is played or announced, you may burn this card to cancel that effect. Burn this card to cancel either a (D) action against this imbued that requires Chimerstry [chi], Dementation [dem], Dominate [dom], Presence [pre], or Serpentis [ser] or a strike card that requires any of those Disciplines played by a minion opposing this imbued as it is announced. No cost is paid.

Oortje

On 24 jun, 11:10, floppyzedolfin <floppyzedol...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > While performing searches for another rule question, I noticed that > there is a difference amongst cancelling cards when it comes to > cancelling strikes. > Some of them allow the minion who attempted to play a strike card to > declare a new strike. Others don't have that explicit cardtext. > > So, here's the question: > > If I cancel my opponent's Majesty with Dark Influences, can her > vampire declare another strike (Staredown or hands, for instance) ? I think a new strike can be played. If you cancel a strike card, it doesn't cancel the oppertunity to strike. Am I right? Greetz, Oortje

LSJ

[ quoted text not captured ] Yes. If a card played to announce a strike is canceled as it is played, then that means the strike didn't get announced. And announcing a strike is not optional. So the minion whose strike card was canceled must still choose a strike.