rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

(LSJ) Ilomba on Byzar

4 messages from 3 participants · 14 December 2010 – 15 December 2010
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floppyzedolfin

Hi Suppose an Ilomba is on Byzar. Some effect would burn Byzar. a - Does Ilomba's cardtext get triggered? That is: Would a retainer on a vampire be burned "at the same time" the vampire would be burned? In my example, Byzar had 0 torpor counter. He diablerizes someone with no blood when having 0 blood himself, and the blood hunt referendum would burn him. b -He probably ends up in torpor, but is it with 1 or with 2 counters? (is it someone's choice?) Thanks, Pascal. ~~ Byzar Cardtype: Vampire Clan: Harbinger of Skulls Group: 6 Capacity: 10 Discipline: dom pre AUS FOR NEC OBF Sabbat: If Byzar would be burned, put a burn counter on him and move him to torpor instead. If he has three burn counters, remove him from the game. +1 stealth. Ilomba Cardtype: Retainer Animal with 1 life. Requires a Laibon. Put Ilomba on any minion (this is a +1 stealth (D) action if that minion is controlled by another Methuselah). If Ilomba would burn a life (or would otherwise be burned), this minion burns a blood or life instead. If he or she cannot, he or she is burned. A minion may have only one Ilomba.

LSJ

On Dec 14, 10:27 am, floppyzedolfin <floppyzedol...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi > Suppose an Ilomba is on Byzar. > Some effect would burn Byzar. > > a - Does Ilomba's cardtext get triggered? No. > That is: Would a retainer on > a vampire be burned "at the same time" the vampire would be burned? No. > In my example, Byzar had 0 torpor counter. He diablerizes someone with > no blood when having 0 blood himself, and the blood hunt referendum > would burn him. > b -He probably ends up in torpor, but is it with 1 or with 2 counters? > (is it someone's choice?) One. The blood hunt referendum passes, so he would be burned, so he gets a counter and goes to torpor instead. There's nothing to activate Ilomba's text, so the presence of Ilomba doesn't come into play in the question. [ quoted text not captured ]

Juggernaut1981

LSJ, I suspect the question is... Byzar has Retainer X or Equipment X. Byzar is burned by Effect Y. Does Retainer/Equipment X go to the ashheap as Byzar gets burned OR does Byzar's text preserve the Equipment/Retainer X as well?

floppyzedolfin

[ quoted text not captured ] The answer is: Byzar doesn't burn, he's sent to torpor. Equipment / Retainers / cards on him that aren't burned when he is sent to torpor aren't burned.