rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

My letter to GenCon on the NAQ and NAC

4 messages from 3 participants · 08 August 2003
original thread on Google Groups

DJ Feng Shui

To all that participated in the NAQ and/or NAC at GenCon, I sent the following letter to GenCon expressing my opinion on how the NAQ and NAC were handled. If you are of the same opinion that I am on the subject, I encourage you to send a letter of your own. to: lawr...@gencon.com cc: lin...@gencon.com p...@gencon.com pe...@gencon.com vte...@white-wolf.com GenCon, I'm not sure if this is the correct place to mail this, if not, please forward to the appropriate party. This letter is in regards to the treatment of the Vampire: The Eternal Struggle (V:TES) CCG tournaments at GenCon Indy 2003. Specifically, the North American Qualifier and North American Championship tournaments. As you may be aware, these tournaments did not have enough contiguous space assigned to them. These tournaments were held in room 210 of the Convention Center. On each day (Friday and Saturday) at least half of the participants had to exit room 210 and move to assigned spaces in different rooms to play their round. In addition, on Saturday the final regular round of the tournament had to be moved to Exhibit Hall F, and tables had to be found. Most of these tables were not in a contiguous space. Why was this a problem? V:TES is played in timed rounds. Having to divide up the players meant that not everyone was playing on the same clock. Also, the arrangement made it difficult to locate the judge in a timely fashion, should a ruling be needed. These factors could lead to situations of collusion and cheating amongst participants. The arrangement contributed to the rounds not concluding in as timely a manner as they would have had they been held in a contiguous space. This lack of efficiency may have had an impact on the ability of tournament attendees to participate in other activities and events in and around GenCon. Despite these difficulties, the White Wolf staff running these events compensated well and should be congratulated for their efforts. In addition, GenCon staff made a good effort to provide alternate arrangements. The participation fee for these tournaments was $9 each. The qualifier had 71 participants and the championship had 81. It would seem to me that for our fee and level of participation, those tournaments deserved more space. In my opinion, the lack of space showed disrespect for the amount of money I invested not only my event participation fee, but also my convention badge fee. White Wolf Publishing, the maker of V:TES, is a large and prominent gaming company. They used GenCon Indy as a venue to make a major announcement this year. In my opinion, the lack of space for the V:TES tournaments shows a lack of respect for White Wolf. This lack of respect may cause the participants of these tournaments to lobby for, and White Wolf to think about an alternate venue for these events in the next calendar year. It would be a shame to see GenCon lose the premier event for V:TES in North America. Nicholas Smith

Jeff Kuta

dj_fen...@hotmail.com (DJ Feng Shui) wrote in message news:<48c4f9ae.03080...@posting.google.com>... > To all that participated in the NAQ and/or NAC at GenCon, > > I sent the following letter to GenCon expressing my opinion on how the > NAQ and NAC were handled. If you are of the same opinion that I am on > the subject, I encourage you to send a letter of your own. Hear! Hear! Excellent letter. WW and VTES players were treated like second class citizens at GenCon. To add insult to injury, we were permanently booted out of the main VTES room by some odd florist exhibition (at least I think that's what it was). I'm going to massively quote Nicholas' e-mail and add a few comments of my own right now! Jeff

LSJ

Jeff Kuta wrote: > permanently booted out of the main VTES room by some odd florist > exhibition (at least I think that's what it was). FYI: The "florist exhibition" was actually a LARP that had been scheduled in the same space starting at 3:00 - the flowers (and wall hangings and statues and whatnot) were props. The LARPers were very understanding and worked with us to give us the extra time we needed to finish the round (the second round) while the Gen*Con staffers tried to find us an alternative to the overbooked room for the third round and the final. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

Jeff Kuta

LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:<3F33DE85...@white-wolf.com>... > Jeff Kuta wrote: > > permanently booted out of the main VTES room by some odd florist > > exhibition (at least I think that's what it was). > > FYI: > > The "florist exhibition" was actually a LARP that had been scheduled > in the same space starting at 3:00 - the flowers (and wall hangings > and statues and whatnot) were props. The LARPers were very understanding > and worked with us to give us the extra time we needed to finish the > round (the second round) while the Gen*Con staffers tried to find us > an alternative to the overbooked room for the third round and the > final. Thanks for clarifying this situation. I was out of the main room for both the 2nd and 3rd rounds so didn't really catch the entire jist of what was happening, especially since my round 2 game nearly went to time.