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[LSJ] Gran Madre di Dio, Italy vs. Reverend Adams, Millennium Cultist

5 messages from 4 participants · 11 January 2007 – 12 January 2007
original thread on Google Groups

a-e

How does Gran Madre di Dio work against Reverend Adams? If Reverend is in the center of table, does it count as putting minion in play when you successful call a referendum to give you control of him? How about if someone else already controls him? Rules say that Reverend is uncontrolled and out of play when he is in the center of table, but also that successful referendum gives you control of him. My guess is that Gran Madre di Dio works only when Reverend is uncontrolled before successful referendum. Gran Madre di Dio, Italy Cardtype: Equipment In play, this is a unique location and does not count as equipment. When your predator or prey puts a minion in play in any phase except the untap phase, that minion is tapped. If that minion is a younger vampire, he or she burns 1 blood. 3. The Reverend Adams, Millennium Cultist crypt card begins play face-up in the center of the table. Reverend Adams begins play with 3 blood from the blood bank and is initially uncontrolled and out of play. 4. If you control the edge, a vampire you control may call a referendum to give you control of Reverend Adams (stealing him from his controller, if any) as a +1 stealth political action. You must burn the edge when that action is announced or the action fails. When control of Reverend Adams changes (by any means), he untaps and is moved to the new controller's ready region and gains 1 blood.

LSJ

a-e wrote: > How does Gran Madre di Dio work against Reverend Adams? If Reverend is > in the center of table, does it count as putting minion in play when you > successful call a referendum to give you control of him? Yes. > How about if > someone else already controls him? No. Moving a vampire in play to another region in play is not putting him in play. > Rules say that Reverend is > uncontrolled and out of play when he is in the center of table, but also > that successful referendum gives you control of him. > > My guess is that Gran Madre di Dio works only when Reverend is > uncontrolled before successful referendum. Correct. [ quoted text not captured ]

Jozxyqk

LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote: > > Rules say that Reverend is > > uncontrolled and out of play when he is in the center of table, but also > > that successful referendum gives you control of him. > > > > My guess is that Gran Madre di Dio works only when Reverend is > > uncontrolled before successful referendum. > Correct. By that logic, would Sterile vampires be unable to call the referendum to snag the Reverend? It is an action that puts a vampire in play.

witness1

[ quoted text not captured ] It is an action that calls a referendum. Presumably, for the same reason that a political action is always undirected no matter whose cards it affects, a referendum to put a vampire in play does not violate the sterile rule. witness1 -believe the lie.

LSJ

[ quoted text not captured ] Correct. See also An Assamite Justicar calling PTO and still not able to play Draught of the Soul. A Laibon with Aye calling Kindred Segregation. He doesn't lose his Aye, even if several allies are burned.