On 19 Oct 2003 15:43:30 -0700, vtes...@yahoo.com (VTES2004) scrawled:
>During your untap phase, the Anarchs rulebook reads that untapping
>must be done before any other effects.
>
>Homonculus retainer - Pay 1b to untap during any untap
>(or bauble, or whatever...)
My understanding is:
You untap one of your cards. You untap another one. continue until all
your cards that can untap have done so.
THEN, after all that, you do 'during untap phase' effects. these
include untapping other cards using other effects. As the 'active'
methuselah, you get to react to all your untap phase effects before
anyone else can, so if you want to you could do everything you can
during your untap phase before anyone else can do anything they are
allowed to do during your untap phase.
Then you go clockwise around the table (see sequencing in the
rulebook) allowing each methuselah to do something they can do during
your untap phase (homunculous, etc). anytime one of them does
something, YOU get to respond with something (if you want), and then
you go clockwise again.
>Question1:
>Is this "normal untap" an atomic event?
each normally untapping thing untaps separately, one after the other.
>Rephrase:
>Is there any response (use Homonculus) allowed to untapping individual
>cards while handling "normal untap"?
no. those are 'during untap phase' effects, which happen _after_
normal untapping.
>Question2:
>Does the active player choose when to allow responses to each untap
>event?
sort of. see my initial spiel above.
>Rephrase:
>Can the active player choose to resolve "normal untap" and "gain edge
>pool" and (any other untap events like hunting ground) consecutively,
>then say "you may respond" (use Homonculus)?
yes. but note that the 'normal untap' can and must happen before
'during untap' stuff, and then you do the during untap stuff, all that
you want, and then you let the other players, going clockwise, do
stuff.
>Question3:
>Is "Normal Untap" an event that can be responded to by other players?
>Rephrase: If Active Player untaps, may each meth have the option to
>respond, then the active player again, then her pred, etc etc?
I guess other players could respond to 'normal untap', but there is
nothing i can think of that would be useful do do in there. would be
simpler, play-wise, for everyone to wait until the 'during untap'
time, at which point it's a lot more straightforward. note that it
doesn't pass to the predator after the active player, as this is not
an undirected action, it is an untap phase effect, so you'd go
clockwise.
Note also that for undirected actions, only the blocking opportunity
passes to predator after prey, not effects sequence, which is still
clockwise.
>That's it for now.
>Perhaps I have brought up other questions in my rephrases, sorry. I am
>attempting to better understand specific timings and I trust I will
>eventually get it.
no problems. through questioning comes wisdom.
salem
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