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[LSJ] Art of Memory Question

6 messages from 5 participants · 01 December 2003 – 02 December 2003
original thread on Google Groups

Shankar Gupta

If a Black Hand Vampire diablarizes, playing the Art of Memory, and the Bloodhunt is cancelled by Ebony Fox Hunt, can the Ebony Fox Hunt be moved back to your hand with the Art of Memory? ~Shankar Gupta

Derek Ray

In message <DsByb.175885$Gq.21...@twister.nyc.rr.com>, "Shankar Gupta" <shanka...@hotmail.com> mumbled something about: >If a Black Hand Vampire diablarizes, playing the Art of Memory, and the >Bloodhunt is cancelled by Ebony Fox Hunt, can the Ebony Fox Hunt be moved >back to your hand with the Art of Memory? "The Art of Memory: Action Modifier. Requires a Black Hand vampire. Only usable when the action is announced. Remove this card from the game when it is played. If the action is successful, move one card played by this vampire during this action from your ash heap to your hand. Discard down to your hand size." Ebony Fox Hunt is a Master Out-Of-Turn; it is not played by vampires. -- Derek "From time to time, the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of idiots." - unknown

Fredrik Appelberg

[ quoted text not captured ] No, since Art of Memory can only move a "card played by this vampire". Ebony Fox Hunt is a master card and is not played by the vampire itself. Cheers, -- Fredrik

LSJ

Derek Ray wrote: > "Shankar Gupta" <shanka...@hotmail.com> mumbled something about: >>If a Black Hand Vampire diablarizes, playing the Art of Memory, and the >>Bloodhunt is cancelled by Ebony Fox Hunt, can the Ebony Fox Hunt be moved >>back to your hand with the Art of Memory? > > Ebony Fox Hunt is a Master Out-Of-Turn; it is not played by vampires. Correct. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

Oortje4ever

Fredrik Appelberg <fre...@mulli.nu> wrote in message news:<bqertj$21ru9o$1...@ID-183559.news.uni-berlin.de>... > Shankar Gupta wrote: > > If a Black Hand Vampire diablarizes, playing the Art of Memory, and the > > Bloodhunt is cancelled by Ebony Fox Hunt, can the Ebony Fox Hunt be moved > > back to your hand with the Art of Memory? 2 nd point why it is impossible: blood hunt is called after an action has completely resolved. So no action modifiers are playable during a bloodhunt. as far as I can recall no reactions are playable either during the bloodhunt. but as always i might be totaly wrong. ps the reform body can only be played after the Bloodhunt. Oortje

LSJ

Oortje4ever wrote: > 2 nd point why it is impossible: blood hunt is called after an action > has completely resolved. So no action modifiers are playable during a > bloodhunt. No. The bloodhunt referendum is conducted during but independent of the current action. That (the "independent of" part) is the reason that no action modifiers can be played. > as far as I can recall no reactions are playable either during the > bloodhunt. Correct, for the same reason as above. > ps the reform body can only be played after the Bloodhunt. Reform Body can be played by the victim of diablerie prior to the bloodhunt refendum (which is then, of course, not called). Reform Body cannot be played by a vampire against whom a bloodhunt is called. [ quoted text not captured ]