Vampire Titles

On 30 May 1995, Mark Evaniak wrote: > Could a vampire hold more than one title at a time? For > example, early in the game, you were to control a primogen. > If you want to pass some votes early, before anybody else > gets out their voting vampires, could you try to give your > primogen, say a justicar, and /or a Praxis Seisure, thus > (theoretically) giving that vampire 6 votes ( 3 + 2 + 1)? > Or maybe (s)he just gets the highest title votes? > > Or for that matter, could one vampire be a prince of two > different cities? I guess this comes under the heading of > "putting all your votes in one basket" > > Mark Evaniak > eva...@math.vt.edu Hi Mark, In the last posting of Errata and Design Team Rulings, it said a vampire could only have one title, if a primogen succedes with Praxis seizure then it ceases to be a primogen, etc. Algustas *****Lord, what fools these mortals be!***** Bill Shakespeare, A Midsummer Night's Dream

Mark Evaniak (eva...@math.vt.edu) wrote: : Here's a "what-if" question for everyone. I don't know : if there is any practicality to this strategy; : my friends and I were just sitting around wondering "is : there any reason why you couldn't do this": A vamp can only hold one title. : Could a vampire hold more than one title at a time? For : example, early in the game, you were to control a primogen. : If you want to pass some votes early, before anybody else : gets out their voting vampires, could you try to give your : primogen, say a justicar, and /or a Praxis Seisure, thus : (theoretically) giving that vampire 6 votes ( 3 + 2 + 1)? : Or maybe (s)he just gets the highest title votes? If a vamp gets more than one title, the old one is lost and the vamp will never have more than 3 votes from titles. There may be some strategy in doing this b/c if there is a Justicar who has 4 or 5 blood left, then making some 7 blood vamp the same Justicar would force the opposing vamp to either give up the title or pay 1 blood from the vamp to keep it.

eva...@math.vt.edu (Mark Evaniak) writes: >>> Could a vampire hold more than one title at a time? For >> In the last posting of Errata and Design Team Rulings, it said a >>vampire could only have one title, if a primogen succedes with Praxis >>seizure then it ceases to be a primogen, etc. >Thanks for the answer, that's what some of us had agreed upon. That, >however brings up a new what-if, with an added nuance: >My primogen gets a praxis seizure, then becomes clan justicar. Someone >else finally gets control over their same justicar. In order to not >have a contested title, I relinquish mine. Does this minion revert >back to prince (without another praxis), or to primogen, or has >he lost that title (primogen) as well? Jyhad has *no* memory of past events. (Lextalionis excepted). He lost the Primogen Title entirely when he became Prince. He lost the Prince title entirely when he became Justicar. He lost the Justicar Title entirely when he yielded. He has no title now. >Also that same question, assuming I started with a prince, assuming >that while he was out justicar'ing, someone else swooped in and >took that prince title? I relinquish my justicar. Does he then become >prince again, thus having a contested title, or does he have to get >a praxis seizure to get it back, ORRR, if the other vamp gets burned, >does he get it back? Nothing happens, since he doesn't automatically re-gain and old, lost title. Even when the new Prince is burned, this vampire is still title-less, since no mechanism exists to remember that he was once a Prince. (He would nee a Praxis Seaizure to start contesting it again). -- L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.scarolina.edu) | These opinions are mine and Graphics Specialist and Jyhad Rulemonger. | are subject to card text.

>> Could a vampire hold more than one title at a time? For > In the last posting of Errata and Design Team Rulings, it said a >vampire could only have one title, if a primogen succedes with Praxis >seizure then it ceases to be a primogen, etc. Thanks for the answer, that's what some of us had agreed upon. That, however brings up a new what-if, with an added nuance: My primogen gets a praxis seizure, then becomes clan justicar. Someone else finally gets control over their same justicar. In order to not have a contested title, I relinquish mine. Does this minion revert back to prince (without another praxis), or to primogen, or has he lost that title (primogen) as well? Also that same question, assuming I started with a prince, assuming that while he was out justicar'ing, someone else swooped in and took that prince title? I relinquish my justicar. Does he then become prince again, thus having a contested title, or does he have to get a praxis seizure to get it back, ORRR, if the other vamp gets burned, does he get it back? Mark Evaniak eva...@math.vt.edu

L. Scott Johnson <sjoh...@math.scarolina.edu> wrote: >Jyhad has *no* memory of past events. (Lextalionis excepted). > >He lost the Primogen Title entirely when he became Prince. >He lost the Prince title entirely when he became Justicar. >He lost the Justicar Title entirely when he yielded. >He has no title now. Hmm. The card on the table has a memory of what it was, if the vampire was originally a primogen or whatever. It says it right on the face of the card. Not disputing your interpretation of the DTR, just pointing out a flaw in your logic ;) -- Alec Habig, Indiana University High Energy Astrophysics aha...@bigbang.astro.indiana.edu http://astrowww.astro.indiana.edu/personnel/ahabig/ Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my guns.