Rules question : Fate Amria / Wave lethargy

- Fata Amria the vampire with fata amria can get rid of it by not untapping during her untap phase. Can she still get rid of it if she is prevented from untapping (sensory deprivation eg) ? I believe she can't 'cause she can't do something "instead of" as she can't do the 1rst thing. It would be paying with money you don't have (hey ! who said "it works sometimes" ! :-)) - Wave of lethargy "maneuvers and presses cost opposing vampire an additional blood to play". What happens face to a sup flash ? I suppose vampire burns an additionnal blood when the flash is played (for the maneuver), but does she still burns an other blood if the optional press is used ? Is "to play" synonymous to "to use" or does it mean you have to play a card from your hand ? I believe a Mob connections press or a IRG maneuver would not cost 1 blood. Am I right ? If so what for such an optional press ? Is it played or used ? Maybe i'm just wrong on "to play" and it simply implies the vampire maneuvers or presses, whatever the means. Sorry if these questions have already been answered...

Mochuda wrote: > > - Fata Amria > > the vampire with fata amria can get rid of it by not untapping during her > untap phase. > > Can she still get rid of it if she is prevented from untapping (sensory > deprivation eg) ? I believe she can't 'cause she can't do something "instead > of" as she can't do the 1rst thing. It would be paying with money you don't > have (hey ! who said "it works sometimes" ! :-)) Correct. The victim burns it "instead" of untapping - not by merely "not untapping". > - Wave of lethargy > > "maneuvers and presses cost opposing vampire an additional blood to play". > > What happens face to a sup flash ? The card costs an additional blood. > I suppose vampire burns an additionnal blood when the flash is played (for > the maneuver), but does she still burns an other blood if the optional press > is used ? No. > Is "to play" synonymous to "to use" or does it mean you have to play a card > from your hand ? The latter. > I believe a Mob connections press or a IRG maneuver would not cost 1 blood. > Am I right ? Yes. > If so what for such an optional press ? Is it played or used ? The card that grants it is "played". -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

"Mochuda" <moc...@arfe.net> wrote in message news:<9l9fj0$302b$1...@news5.isdnet.net>... > - Fata Amria > > the vampire with fata amria can get rid of it by not untapping during her > untap phase. > > Can she still get rid of it if she is prevented from untapping (sensory > deprivation eg) ? No. > I believe she can't 'cause she can't do something "instead > of" as she can't do the 1rst thing. It would be paying with money you don't > have (hey ! who said "it works sometimes" ! :-)) Right. You need to be able to untap to be able to give up that untap for an effect. > - Wave of lethargy > > "maneuvers and presses cost opposing vampire an additional blood to play". > > What happens face to a sup flash ? One blood is paid when the card is "played". ie, when it is moved from your hand into the game for the maneuver. > I suppose vampire burns an additionnal blood when the flash is played (for > the maneuver), but does she still burns an other blood if the optional press > is used ? No. Only when the card is "played". > Is "to play" synonymous to "to use" or does it mean you have to play a card > from your hand ? "To Play" is only when you move a card from your hand into the game. "Using" an effect of a card already in play is not "playing" it. > I believe a Mob connections press or a IRG maneuver would not cost 1 blood. > Am I right ? Yes. > If so what for such an optional press ? Is it played or used ? It is only used. > Maybe i'm just wrong on "to play" and it simply implies the vampire > maneuvers or presses, whatever the means. Nope. > Sorry if these questions have already been answered... No problem, that's what the newsgroup is here for. Carpe noctem. Lasombra http://www.TheLasombra.com