I'm trying to complete a Jyhad set, and I heard about multiple versions of some cards :
Zip Gun : Weapon, Gun. in bold text
Manstopper Rounds : artist name Né Né or Né' Né'
Tasha Morgan : added "All Kindred"
Renegade Garou : Title written Renegade or Renagade
Psychic Projection : title written Psychic or Physchic
Hell Hound : first sentence cut after "only" or after "actions,"
Business Pressure : added "Only usable during..."
First Tradition: The Masquerade, The : WORTH 1 vote or COUNTS AS 1 vote
Form of Mist : extra space before "Mist" in the title
Infernal Pursuit : first sentence cut after "the" or after "com-"
IR Goggles : first sentence cut after "maneuver" or "each"
Wolf Companion : ???
Pulling Strings : ???
Night Moves : ???
Rampage : ???
Mr. Winthrop : ???
Aura Reading : ???
Bastard Sword : ???
Am I right ?
There are behind the cards the differences I've noticed, but I didn't see anything for some of them (I left question marks)
Could you enlighten me, please ?
François Alix, from France
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This is indeed true. I have some of them, but not all. I personally
decided that it wasn't worth thrying to complete a set, with the
multiple
differences (some of my friends did) as it was proving costly with
the rares at the time.
I wasn't aware it was quite as many as you quote here, and I don't
have to hand all of them, but you are certainly correct with the
following
Zip Gun : Weapon, Gun. in bold text
Renegade Garou : Title written Renegade or Renagade
Psychic Projection : title written Psychic or Physchic
Business Pressure : added "Only usable during..."
Hope this is of some help. Let me know if you need to find any, and I'll
look through what I have. (I know we are not supposed to be trading on
this group, but it is only an additional aimed at the person writing
post)
Andy
Setite Ruler of Cambridge
VEKN Prince
--
Whether it is nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of
outragous fortune, or get fat on chocolate cake, eat the cake, life
is too short to worry!
> This is indeed true. I have some of them, but not all. I personally
> decided that it wasn't worth thrying to complete a set, with the
> multiple
> differences (some of my friends did) as it was proving costly with
> the rares at the time.
>
> I wasn't aware it was quite as many as you quote here, and I don't
> have to hand all of them, but you are certainly correct with the
> following
>
> Zip Gun : Weapon, Gun. in bold text
> Renegade Garou : Title written Renegade or Renagade
> Psychic Projection : title written Psychic or Physchic
> Business Pressure : added "Only usable during..."
The Tasha Morgan difference is also correct, I have both version myself.
Roger
"François Alix" <al...@club-internet.fr> a écrit dans le message news: 3c45962a$0$4092$7a62...@news.club-internet.fr...
>Zip Gun : Weapon, Gun. in bold text
>Manstopper Rounds : artist name Né Né or Né' Né'
>Tasha Morgan : added "All Kindred"
>Renegade Garou : Title written Renegade or Renagade
>Psychic Projection : title written Psychic or Physchic
>Hell Hound : first sentence cut after "only" or after "actions,"
>Business Pressure : added "Only usable during..."
>First Tradition: The Masquerade, The : WORTH 1 vote or COUNTS AS 1 vote
>Form of Mist : extra space before "Mist" in the title
>Infernal Pursuit : first sentence cut after "the" or after "com-"
>IR Goggles : first sentence cut after "maneuver" or "each"
Thank you everybody, those who replied on this newsgroup or in my mailbox !
All information above are correct !
But, what about the following ?
Wolf Companion
Pulling Strings
Night Moves
Rampage
Mr. Winthrop
Aura Reading
Bastard Sword
François Alix, from France
Wolf Companion : ???
Pulling Strings : ???
Night Moves : ???
Rampage : ???
Ones that I have, in addition to the ones you listed...
Bastard Sword: One version has 2 spaces between "1994" and "Rob" in the
artist credit, the other has only a single space.
Form of Mist: One version has an extra space between "of" and "Mist" in the
title
J.S. Simmons, Esq: One version has a space between "J. S." in title, one
doesn't
Submachine Gun: One version has 2 spaces between "1994" and "Douglas" in the
artist credit, the other has only a single space.
Man Stopper Rounds: One version has extra ' marks (2 total) on the artist
name (Ne''Ne'' Thomas) instead of Ne'Ne' Thomas.
Aura Reading: Different margins.
Mr Winthrop: Differnt font sizes.
The others probably have similar font/margin differences if any. Those
types of mistakes are very hard to detect and tiny. Especially since you
might not have both, so you will go blind trying to find the differences!
--
Aaron
The Nosferatu Stuff
> This is indeed true. I have some of them, but not all. I personally
> decided that it wasn't worth thrying to complete a set, with the
> multiple
> differences (some of my friends did) as it was proving costly with
> the rares at the time.
Yes, but do they have all of the sabbat war varient cards? =)
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> I'm trying to complete a Jyhad set, and I heard about multiple versions
> of some cards :
I have a few questions about this list:
Where did you get this list?
Are you sure it is complete, and that they are no other differences of
cards within the jyhad set that are not on your list?
Thanks,
Menno
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Here's another list (again compiled by a fan and not guaranteed):
From: mar...@elmo.zso.dec.com (shawn marier)
Newsgroups: alt.games.jyhad,rec.games.deckmaster
Subject: JYHAD : Checklist V4.1
Date: 12 Sep 1994 15:43:25 GMT
Message-ID: <351sut$d...@usenet.pa.dec.com>
Jyhad check list - Rev 4.1 September 12, 1994
-------------------------------------------------
Author Shawn Marier (mar...@zso.dec.com)
Disputed Territory: Typo - The political icon was not printed.
Cat Burglary : Typo - Superior option is not in bold print, this is
ok as both regular and superior effects are the
same due to the rules.
Eco Terrorists : Typo - The cards says "add1" instead of "add 1"
Fists of Death : Typo - The number is off center of the blood drop.
Golconda : Typo - Artist is Kaja Foglio, not Kaja Folio.
Venture Justicar : Typo - The title is incorrect, it should be Ventrue
Justicar. Also the card descriptions has typos,
wherever it refers to Tremere substitute Ventrue.
Zip Gun card : Typo - Artist is Kaja Foglio, not Kaja Fogllo.
The 4th Tradition : This is a minion card, it is printed with the master
(gray) background.
The Spawning Pool : This is a master card, it is printed with the minon
(red) background.
Aura Reading : 2 version exist, you can tell by text spacing.
Bastard Sword : 2 version exist, you can tell by the illustrator spacing.
Business Pressure : 2 version exist, 1 card has "Only usable during a political
action", the other is missing this line.
Chainsaw : 2 version exist, you can tell by the illustrator spacing.
Hell Hound : 2 version exist, you can tell by the print size.
Infernal Pursuit : 2 version exist, one has semi-colon were the other has a
period.
IR Goggles : 2 version exist, you can tell by the text spacing.
J.S. Simmons Esq. : 2 version exist, "J.S." vs "J. S." in the title.
Manstopper Rounds : 2 version exist, Ne Ne vs Ne Ne' on illusrator line.
Night Moves : 2 version exist, you can tell by the text placement, one
is higher.
Physchic Projection : This is the same card as Psychic Projection, the title
of the card was misprinted.
Rampage : 2 version exist, you can tell by the line spacing.
Renegade Garou : 2 version exist, the gangrel icon placement is different.
Submachine Gun : 2 version exist, you can tell by the illustrator spacing.
Tasha Morgan : 2 version exist, each has a different artist listed, and
one has an "All Kindred" restriction.
The 1st Tradition : 2 version exist, You can tell by the statement worth
1 vote is replaced by counts as 1 vote.
Zip Gun : 2 version exist, "Weapon, Gun" is bold and the artists name
is spelled wrong (see above), the version is not bold and
her name is spelled correctly.
--
Shawn Del Marier mar...@zso.dec.com
Digital Equipment Corporation ...!decwrl!slugbt.enet!marier
DECwest Engineering/Bellevue WA (206) 865-8886
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Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules:
http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/
"Menno Rieff" <mfgr...@hotmail.com> a écrit dans le message news: 1697f4f7.02011...@posting.google.com...
> > I'm trying to complete a Jyhad set, and I heard about multiple versions
> > of some cards :
>
> I have a few questions about this list:
>
> Where did you get this list?
there was an auction on ebay last day in which the seller wanted to sell a Jyhad set, with that list of different versions.
It was just to confirm, but he did it, and I bought the set !
>
> Are you sure it is complete, and that they are no other differences of
> cards within the jyhad set that are not on your list?
Not complete, but if you want, I can publish here his complete list of "double-version" cards
By the way, he used to work for WotC a long time ago, so his info are quite true !
>
> Thanks,
>
> Menno
> > Are you sure it is complete, and that they are no other differences of
> > cards within the jyhad set that are not on your list?
>
> Not complete, but if you want, I can publish here his complete list of
> "double-version" cards
> By the way, he used to work for WotC a long time ago, so his info are
> quite true !
I would really like to see the complete list if possible, if it adds
information to the list LSJ posted in this topic!
thanks!
Menno
>
> I would really like to see the complete list if possible, if it adds
> information to the list LSJ posted in this topic!
>
> thanks!
>
> Menno
ok, here is it :
Here is a complete list of the known variations:
2 version-cards:
Aura Reading : Text spacing is different.
Bastard Sword : Illustrator spacing is different
Business Pressure : One has "Only usable during a political action".
Chainsaw : Illustrator spacing is different
1st Tradition, The: "worth 1 vote" is replaced by "counts as 1 vote".
Form of Mist : Title spacing is different.
Grenade : Title spacing (up/down) is different, look above the
"d".
Hell Hound : Font size is different.
Infernal Pursuit : One has semi-colon were the other has a period.
IR Goggles : Text spacing is different.
J.S. Simmons Esq. : Title spacing is different.
Manstopper Rounds : Illustrator name is spelled differently.
Mr. Winthrop : Font Size is different
Murder of Crows : Position of the 1 in the blood drop is different.
Night Moves : Text placement is different, one is higher.
Psychic Projection: Psychic/Physchic, in title of card.
Pulled Fangs : Body text spacing (up/down) is different, look above an
"l"
Pulling Strings : Title spacing (up/down) is different, look above an "l".
Rampage : Text spacing is different.
Renegade Garou : Renegade/Renagade, in title of card.
Ritual of the Bitter Rose : Title spacing (up/down) is different, look above
the "l".
Sport Bikes : Position of the 1 in the blood drop is different.
Submachine Gun : Illustrator spacing is different.
Tasha Morgan : One has "All Kindred". Different artist listed for
each.
Undead Persistence: Title spacing (up/down) is different, look above a "d".
Walk of Flame : Title spacing (up/down) is different, look above the
"k".
Wolf Companion : Text spacing is different.
Zip Gun : "Weapon, Gun" is bold on one.
> ok, here is it :
> Here is a complete list of the known variations:
A few questions/remarks regarding this list.
Pulled fangs: Could someone explain the difference between the two
versions?
i own 6 jyhad versions, but i dont see a difference at all.
What should i be looking for?
Misplaced title spacing (up/down); These are really hard too see!
I am blessed with above average eyes, but the difference is so small.
I estimate the difference between the versions to be less than 0.5
milimeter.
Murder of Crows: The same.
The difference of the position of the 1 in the cost icon is very very
small.
Off-centered cards: I noticed that many cards of the jyhad expansion
are off centered as well (all up/down).
Does anybody know if that are random occurrences, and that the
majority of the cards exist both off- and properly centered?
Or is it the same case with the misprints on this list, and are the
off-centered cards replaced by better centered ones in more recent
printings of the jyhad set?
Other sets: Is jyhad the only set with different versions in one set?
I know Sabbat War has a few, and i would appreciate a list of cards
with different versions.
I also know that the V:tes set has a few odd colored cards (bonding)
but i don't know if that has been corrected in further printings of
V:tes.
Are there any other sets?
Needed: Below are the cards i still need to complete the Jyhad set
(and a couple of bloodlines).
If anybody can help me out, please contact me privatly to see if we
can work something out
Bloodlines:
Murcia's Call
Nightmare's Curse
Erebus Mask
>Jyhad 2 version-cards:> Bastard Sword : Illustrator spacing is different
> Business Pressure : One has "Only usable during a political action".
> Chainsaw : Illustrator spacing is different
> 1st Tradition, The: "worth 1 vote" is replaced by "counts as 1 vote".
> Form of Mist : Title spacing is different.> Hell Hound : Font size is different.
> Infernal Pursuit : One has semi-colon were the other has a period.> Manstopper Rounds : Illustrator name is spelled differently.> Psychic Projection: Psychic/Physchic, in title of card.
> Pulled Fangs : Body text spacing (up/down) is different, look above
> an "l"> Renegade Garou : Renegade/Renagade, in title of card.
> Ritual of the Bitter Rose : Title spacing (up/down) is different, look
> above the "l".
> Sport Bikes : Position of the 1 in the blood drop is different.
> Submachine Gun : Illustrator spacing is different.[ quoted text not captured ]
"Menno Rieff" <mfgr...@hotmail.com> a écrit dans le message news: 1697f4f7.02012...@posting.google.com...
> > ok, here is it :
> > Here is a complete list of the known variations:
>
> A few questions/remarks regarding this list.
>
> Pulled fangs: Could someone explain the difference between the two
> versions?
> i own 6 jyhad versions, but i dont see a difference at all.
> What should i be looking for?
I've got the two versions of Pulled Fangs, and the difference is very very small (as you said, less than 0.5 mm...)
To complete my collection, I left the five cards with title spacing, too hard to check !
Anyway, the 1 placement into the blood drops is "more noticeable"...
>
> Misplaced title spacing (up/down); These are really hard too see!
> I am blessed with above average eyes, but the difference is so small.
> I estimate the difference between the versions to be less than 0.5
> milimeter.
right, it's very difficult to notice the difference
>
> Murder of Crows: The same.
> The difference of the position of the 1 in the cost icon is very very
> small.
easier to notice, though
>
> Off-centered cards: I noticed that many cards of the jyhad expansion
> are off centered as well (all up/down).
> Does anybody know if that are random occurrences, and that the
> majority of the cards exist both off- and properly centered?
> Or is it the same case with the misprints on this list, and are the
> off-centered cards replaced by better centered ones in more recent
> printings of the jyhad set?
dunno
>
> Other sets: Is jyhad the only set with different versions in one set?
> I know Sabbat War has a few, and i would appreciate a list of cards
> with different versions.
> I also know that the V:tes set has a few odd colored cards (bonding)
> but i don't know if that has been corrected in further printings of
> V:tes.
> Are there any other sets?
>
> Needed: Below are the cards i still need to complete the Jyhad set
yes, but which ones ? You can mail me in private to check them if you want !
<snip card list>