Out of Turn Master

Hi to all Question about Out of turn Masters, If i have Anson in play, can i after my turn play two master out of turn (Sudden reversal and Direct Intervention)? I not sure but i remember read somewhere that no Tzimiscelord, Primogen, Paris

In article <8v07fm$8sp$1...@s1.read.news.oleane.net>, "Sylvain Gogel" <syl...@cognition.fr> wrote: > Hi to all > > Question about Out of turn Masters, > If i have Anson in play, can i after > my turn play two master out of turn > (Sudden reversal and Direct Intervention)? No. Page 15 Sabbat War Rulebook. http://www.white-wolf.com/VTES/downloads/SabbatWarRulebook9.pdf 1.6.2.3 3rd Sentence "You may not play a second out-of-turn card against the same master phase - you'll have to wait until you square away the debt you owe for the first one." Carpe Noctem. Lasombra http://lasombra.tripod.com http://legbiter.tripod.com Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

I don't agree with you (or at least your explanation) : you say (per rulebook) "You may not play a second out-of-turn card against the same master phase '...' " Ok, right it is written against the SAME master phase. But with Anson you get 2 master Phase action : so you can play 2 master a turn, or 1 master and 1 out of turn, or 2 out of turn... LSJ it is right ? Stéphane Ventrue Prince of Paris. [ quoted text not captured ]

sla...@my-deja.com wrote: > > I don't agree with you (or at least your explanation) : you say (per > rulebook) > "You may not play a second out-of-turn card against the same master > phase '...' " > Ok, right it is written against the SAME master phase. > But with Anson you get 2 master Phase action : so you can play 2 master > a turn, or 1 master and 1 out of turn, or 2 out of turn... 1) There's a difference between a "Master Phase" and a "Master Phase *Action*". 2) Anson may not be with you as of your next master phase. You can't borrow against a destructible commodity. I know it seems intuitive that if you're expecting two master phase actions in your next turn, you ought to be able to spend them on two out-of-turn master cards. But the rules do not say that. Fred

1) Right. 2) Anson may not be with you as of your next master phase. You can't > borrow against a destructible commodity. Dear Fred, if so perhaps You can't even play 1 master out of turn since you'll perhaps be dead before your next turn ! ah ah ah (sadistic laugh :))) Stéphane Ventrue Prince of Paris www.multimania.com/parisvekn/ [ quoted text not captured ]

sla...@my-deja.com wrote: > > 2) Anson may not be with you as of your next master phase. You can't > > borrow against a destructible commodity. > > Dear Fred, if so perhaps You can't even play 1 master out of turn > since you'll perhaps be dead before your next turn ! Perhaps. But you can still play one per turn because the rules say you can play one per turn. But they do not say that you can play two per turn just because it appears that you will have two MPAs on your following turn. They don't say anything at all about what might qualify you for a second out-of-turn card. Notice that by sticking to allowing only one OOT, the rules neatly dodge the issue of what would happen if you used two and then later someone torporized Anson. Fred

sla...@my-deja.com wrote: > I don't agree with you (or at least your explanation) : you say (per > rulebook) > "You may not play a second out-of-turn card against the same master > phase '...' " > Ok, right it is written against the SAME master phase. And it is written that the MOoT counts against your next master phase, so if you played another (which is illagel), it would be against the same master phase: namely, the next one. [1.6.2.3] > But with Anson you get 2 master Phase action : so you can play 2 > master a turn, or 1 master and 1 out of turn, or 2 out of turn... > > LSJ it is right ? No. It doesn't matter how many Master Phase Actions you think you'll have on your next master phase - you can only play one MOoT against that Master Phase (which means only one between your Master Phases). -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) VTES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/ [ quoted text not captured ]