Anarch + Clan Imp [LSJ]

If you become Anarch, and then Clan Impersonate a Camarilla Clan, do you lose your Anarch Status ? If you had Anarch Counters, do you lose them ? -- Orpheus "Having faith means denying what you know is real Because reality is too hard to live with" Brian Azarello

On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 09:13:08 +0200, "Orpheus" <orph...@free.fr> scrawled: >If you become Anarch, and then Clan Impersonate a Camarilla Clan, do you >lose your Anarch Status ? If you had Anarch Counters, do you lose them ? when you change clan you gain the default sect of the clan. from the rulebook: "10. Vampire Sects ... If a vampire changes clans (by means of a Clan Impersonation card, for example) to a clan that belongs to a different sect (see the lists in the following sections), he changes sects as well." all the effects (currently) that make you an anarch vampire are 'undone' if you change sect. (card texts say to burn Galaric's Legacy and Go Anarch!, burn Seattle Committee's anarch counters, and from the cardless action rule as printed in the rulebook "If the anarch changes sect, then he is no longer anarch.") salem domain:canberra http://www.geocities.com/salem_christ.geo/vtes.htm

salem wrote: > "Orpheus" <orph...@free.fr> scrawled: >>If you become Anarch, and then Clan Impersonate a Camarilla Clan, do you >>lose your Anarch Status ? If you had Anarch Counters, do you lose them ? > > when you change clan you gain the default sect of the clan. > all the effects (currently) that make you an anarch vampire are > 'undone' if you change sect. (card texts say to burn Galaric's Legacy > and Go Anarch!, burn Seattle Committee's anarch counters, and from the > cardless action rule as printed in the rulebook "If the anarch changes > sect, then he is no longer anarch.") Correct. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

>If you become Anarch, and then Clan Impersonate a Camarilla Clan, do you >lose your Anarch Status ? If you had Anarch Counters, do you lose them ? Slight elaboration to previous posts: Yes, unless you Clan Impersonate your current clan. An Anarch Ventrue who CI's to Brujah becomes Camarilla and thus loses his Anarchness. If he CI's to Ventrue instead, he does not change sect because he does not change sect (and thus maintains his Anarchhood). Halcyan 2

On 11 Jul 2003 04:16:06 GMT, halc...@aol.com (Halcyan 2) scrawled: [ quoted text not captured ] i know you meant 'clan' where you wrote that second 'sect' there. :) to clarify: to chage sects with CI, you need to actually CHANGE clan. you can't just CI to your current clan to gain it's default sect. [ quoted text not captured ]