rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Suggestion to Wizards

7 messages from 7 participants · 12 March 1997 – 15 March 1997
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s...@dolnet.gr

As a new player to VTES, i have to say that although is a great game it has its flaws...like many revised rules, cards errata (seems that never stop), and many other things that bring confusion at the moment of play. One major flaw is that the owner of most cards and expansions (any kind), has more choices and can construct a more powerfull deck to oust his/her opponents.Me and my friends are trying to play not allowing duplicate cards of any kind.We will see how it is gonna be. We also wish to see a new cardgame with Highlander thematology.It will be nice for my friends. And a question: is it possible to be blocked by more than one Methuselah, meaning that the combat that will occure, have more than 2 minions participate at the same time? Thanks in advance.

James Hamblin

s...@dolnet.gr wrote: > > As a new player to VTES, i have to say that although is a great game it > has its flaws...like many revised rules, Well, the rules are fairly complex, and they did a horrible job with the rulebook, so revisions are unfortunately necessary. > cards errata (seems that never > stop), One drawback of complex rules is that sometimes cards interact in a way never intended. Mostly, though, the eratta makes intuitive sense. > and many other things that bring confusion at the moment of play. > One major flaw is that the owner of most cards and expansions (any > kind), has more choices and can construct a more powerfull deck to oust > his/her opponents. Not true. The "money makes the deck better" syndrome plaguing most CCG's is, for the most part, avoided by Jyhad. Most of the useful cards are common, and boxes of boosters sell for around $20. > Me and my friends are trying to play not allowing > duplicate cards of any kind. We will see how it is gonna be. Four card limit is bad enough. One card limit would be horrible. My advice is to have your group pitch in for a couple of boxes ($10 for ~18 boosters is a great deal) and get the cards you need. > We also wish to see a new cardgame with Highlander thematology. It will > be nice for my friends. Hmmm... Well, fat chance getting this from Wizards. They seem to want to spend all year stuffing the cash cow. > And a question: is it possible to be blocked by more than one > Methuselah, meaning that the combat that will occure, have more than 2 > minions participate at the same time? No. There's a particular order that players choose to block, though usually you use gentlemanly rules; "Oh, you wanted to block that, too? OK, go ahead." or "Oh, I didn't see that you also had +1 intercept, but I really wanted to block this. Thanks. I'll do you a solid later." Have fun! James -- James E. Hamblin je...@cornell.edu "There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. ... Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender." -- G'Kar, Babylon 5: "Z'ha'dum"

Robert Goudie

s...@dolnet.gr wrote: > [clip] > One major flaw is that the owner of most cards and expansions (any > kind), has more choices and can construct a more powerfull deck to oust > his/her opponents.Me and my friends are trying to play not allowing > duplicate cards of any kind.We will see how it is gonna be. Some of what you say is certainly true, though it was never meant to be this way. Most cards in the original Jyhad set could be countered with other common cards. Generally speaking, having the most cards didn't mean you'd win more. Some of the new cards such as the Tomb of Ramses has wrecked my life many times and I don't have enough of my own to level the playing field. I don't think that your 1 card limit will make the game more enjoyable for you though. It is impossible to build a cohesive deck strategy that way. Maybe you should allow the free proxying of cards. Everyone gets sleeves and you can have as many of any card as you want. The playing field is then leveled. And no, only one block may occur. Robert ...................................................................... :The opinions expressed here are strictly my own delusional ramblings: :and do not reflect the opinions of The Walt Disney Company. : : : :Robert Goudie robert...@studio.disney.com: :LA Tourney Info - http://www.cs.ucr.edu/~ezix/other/rg/vtourn_1.html: :....................................................................: :cigars * v:tes * car rallies * scotch * sega rally champion * spoon : :....................................................................: -- ...................................................................... :The opinions expressed here are strictly my own delusional ramblings: :and do not reflect the opinions of The Walt Disney Company. : : : :Robert Goudie robert...@studio.disney.com: :LA Tourny Info -> http://www.cs.ucr.edu/~ezix/other/rg/vtourn_1.html: :....................................................................: :Da pony run, he jump he pitch. He t'row my master in da ditch. : :He died and da jury wondered why. Da verdict was the blue tail fly.: :....................................................................:

Chad Lubrecht

> s...@dolnet.gr wrote: > > > We also wish to see a new cardgame with Highlander thematology. It will > > be nice for my friends. There is (or was, don't know if it's still made) a Highlander card game. I never bought it, but I read the rules. They sounded pretty bad. Don't remember which company put it out either. -- Chad Lubrecht lubr...@udel.edu The Sage at UD http://udel.edu/~lubrecht

Hardrock Llewynyth

Thus saith James Hamblin the Unworthy, in the Year of Our Lord Wed, 12 Mar 1997 16:38:15 -0500 : > s...@dolnet.gr wrote: > Not true. The "money makes the deck better" syndrome plaguing most > CCG's is, for the most part, avoided by Jyhad. Most of the useful cards > are common, and boxes of boosters sell for around $20. this is becoming more the rule with the newer expansions though. a lot of really powerful (read: broken) rares that can be really nasty unless someone has the rare that will kill it. > Four card limit is bad enough. One card limit would be horrible. My > advice is to have your group pitch in for a couple of boxes ($10 for ~18 > boosters is a great deal) and get the cards you need. i can't think of a single deck type that would play at all, let alone well, with 1 card limits. > > We also wish to see a new cardgame with Highlander thematology. It will > > be nice for my friends. > Hmmm... Well, fat chance getting this from Wizards. They seem to want > to spend all year stuffing the cash cow. actually, it has been on the market for quite a while. i forget who puts it out. Swordmaster or someone like that. > No. There's a particular order that players choose to block, though > usually you use gentlemanly rules; "Oh, you wanted to block that, too? > OK, go ahead." or "Oh, I didn't see that you also had +1 intercept, but > I really wanted to block this. Thanks. I'll do you a solid later." yeah. when two methusalahs attempt silultaneous actions/reactions the play proceeds clockwise from the initiator. eg, your prey has the opportunity to block a praxis seizure before your predator does. only one acting/reacting meth at a time. Hardrock -- Hardrock Llewynyth a.g.AB founding member (DNRC) hard...@speakeasy.org http://www.speakeasy.org/~hardrock No good deed goes unpunished. --Clare Boothe Luce

L. Scott Johnson

s...@dolnet.gr wrote: > And a question: is it possible to be blocked by more than one > Methuselah, meaning that the combat that will occure, have more than 2 > minions participate at the same time? No. Once a blocker succeeds in blocking the action (i.e., the blocker has enough intercept to match the acting minion's stealth, and the blocker is not otherwise prevented from blocking), then the action is completed (fails) and combat occurs. No one else can attempt to block at this point, because their is no action to block. The action ended when the first block was successful. -- L. Scott Johnson (vte...@regency.wizards.com) Official VtES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. (*) - Subject to review by Rules Team

Dan Keller

Chad Lubrecht wrote: > > > s...@dolnet.gr wrote: > > > > > We also wish to see a new cardgame with Highlander thematology. It will > > > be nice for my friends. > > There is (or was, don't know if it's still made) a Highlander card game. > I never bought it, but I read the rules. They sounded pretty bad. Don't > remember which company put it out either. Thunder Castle Games makes it, actually. It's a pretty cool game, if you can find the cards. Look for the next expansion, "Watcher's Chronicles"! (Now back to your regularly scheduled Jyhad/V:TES discussion) :) > > -- > Chad Lubrecht > lubr...@udel.edu > The Sage at UD > http://udel.edu/~lubrecht Dan Keller ran...@potomac.net "Riddle me this comic-book man: what's black and white and red all over? Our comics in your arterial spray!" -Milk & Cheese