Sela

OK.. so the old Sela we know and love has this ability: If Sela becomes an archbishop, each ready bishop controlled by your prey burns 1 blood. Advanced Sela is an Archbishop. So, if you have basic Sela in play, and then you merge her, her ability triggers, because she "becomes" an Archbishop. Correct? But if you have Advanced Sela in play, and then you merge her, her ability does not trigger, because she doesn't "become" an Archbishop, she already is one. Correct? Also, if, for example, Constanza Vinti is in play, and you merge Sela as the first example above, does her ability trigger? Does she "become an Archbishop" before her title contests? Does she "become an Archbishop" each time a vampire contesting her title yields?

Jozxyqk wrote: > OK.. so the old Sela we know and love has this ability: > If Sela becomes an archbishop, each ready bishop controlled by your prey > burns 1 blood. > > Advanced Sela is an Archbishop. > > So, if you have basic Sela in play, and then you merge her, her ability > triggers, because she "becomes" an Archbishop. Correct? > > But if you have Advanced Sela in play, and then you merge her, her ability > does not trigger, because she doesn't "become" an Archbishop, she already > is one. Correct? Correct. > Also, if, for example, Constanza Vinti is in play, and you merge Sela > as the first example above, does her ability trigger? Does she "become an > Archbishop" before her title contests? No. > Does she "become an Archbishop" each time a vampire contesting her title > yields? ... when her untap phase rolls around and she wins the title back, yes. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:<3FB8E525...@white-wolf.com>... > Jozxyqk wrote: > > OK.. so the old Sela we know and love has this ability: > > If Sela becomes an archbishop, each ready bishop controlled by your prey > > burns 1 blood. > > > > Advanced Sela is an Archbishop. > > > > So, if you have basic Sela in play, and then you merge her, her ability > > triggers, because she "becomes" an Archbishop. Correct? > > > > But if you have Advanced Sela in play, and then you merge her, her ability > > does not trigger, because she doesn't "become" an Archbishop, she already > > is one. Correct? > > Correct. > > > Also, if, for example, Constanza Vinti is in play, and you merge Sela > > as the first example above, does her ability trigger? Does she "become an > > Archbishop" before her title contests? > > No. Isn't Constanza the Prince of Rome? Does that prevent Sela from becoming the Archbishop of the same city? [ quoted text not captured ]

On 18 Nov 2003 00:47:51 -0800, athosg...@gmx.at (Angus, the Unruled) scrawled: >LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:<3FB8E525...@white-wolf.com>... >> Jozxyqk wrote: >> > OK.. so the old Sela we know and love has this ability: >> > If Sela becomes an archbishop, each ready bishop controlled by your prey >> > burns 1 blood. >> > >> > Advanced Sela is an Archbishop. >> > >> > So, if you have basic Sela in play, and then you merge her, her ability >> > triggers, because she "becomes" an Archbishop. Correct? >> > >> > But if you have Advanced Sela in play, and then you merge her, her ability >> > does not trigger, because she doesn't "become" an Archbishop, she already >> > is one. Correct? >> >> Correct. >> >> > Also, if, for example, Constanza Vinti is in play, and you merge Sela >> > as the first example above, does her ability trigger? Does she "become an >> > Archbishop" before her title contests? >> >> No. > >Isn't Constanza the Prince of Rome? Does that prevent Sela from >becoming the Archbishop of the same city? they will contest. From the rulebook: "4.2. Contested Titles Some titles are unique. For example, there can be only one prince or archbishop of a particular city (see “Vampire Sects,” sec. 10)." "The title of prince is associated with a particular city and can be contested by another vampire who claims the title of prince or archbishop of the same city." salem domain:canberra http://www.geocities.com/salem_christ.geo/vtes.htm

salem wrote: > they will contest. From the rulebook: > "4.2. Contested Titles > Some titles are unique. For example, there can be only one prince > or archbishop of a particular city (see “Vampire Sects,” sec. 10)." > > "The title of prince is associated with > a particular city and can be contested by another vampire who > claims the title of prince or archbishop of the same city." <nit>Barons also contest cities. And barons must pay an extra blood to contest a prince or archbishop.</nit> --Colin McGuigan

salem <salem_ch...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<rntjrv4iubvi6jtlc...@4ax.com>... > On 18 Nov 2003 00:47:51 -0800, athosg...@gmx.at (Angus, the > Unruled) scrawled: > > >LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:<3FB8E525...@white-wolf.com>... > >> Jozxyqk wrote: > >> > OK.. so the old Sela we know and love has this ability: > >> > If Sela becomes an archbishop, each ready bishop controlled by your prey > >> > burns 1 blood. > >> > > >> > Advanced Sela is an Archbishop. > >> > > >> > So, if you have basic Sela in play, and then you merge her, her ability > >> > triggers, because she "becomes" an Archbishop. Correct? > >> > > >> > But if you have Advanced Sela in play, and then you merge her, her ability > >> > does not trigger, because she doesn't "become" an Archbishop, she already > >> > is one. Correct? > >> > >> Correct. > >> > >> > Also, if, for example, Constanza Vinti is in play, and you merge Sela > >> > as the first example above, does her ability trigger? Does she "become an > >> > Archbishop" before her title contests? > >> > >> No. > > > >Isn't Constanza the Prince of Rome? Does that prevent Sela from > >becoming the Archbishop of the same city? > > they will contest. From the rulebook: > "4.2. Contested Titles > Some titles are unique. For example, there can be only one prince > or archbishop of a particular city (see ?Vampire Sects,? sec. 10)." > > "The title of prince is associated with > a particular city and can be contested by another vampire who > claims the title of prince or archbishop of the same city." > > salem > domain:canberra http://www.geocities.com/salem_christ.geo/vtes.htm Öha .. Somehow this rule has slipped past me. Thanks for the enlightment

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 08:13:07 -0600, Colin McGuigan <maguaSP...@speakeasy.net> scrawled: [ quoted text not captured ] An interesting thing to note is that this was mentioned at the start of the Anarchs rulebook in the new rules section, but wasn't actually in the body of the rulebook that I could see. I haven't checked, but I presume that since there is no new rules section in the BH rulebook that the Baron contesty bit is now in the body? [ quoted text not captured ]