Lutz Hofmann <l...@cs.tu-berlin.de> wrote:
>>No. It is a reaction card so follows all the normal rules for such,
>>except *when* it's played.>Please elaborate on the exception. May i play Elder Kindred Network, Dread
>Gaze, Surprise Influence etc. as reaction on my own vote?
No, since you can't react to your own action. What I meant by "except
when it's played" is that cards such as Surprise Influence or Bewitching
Oration are played while a vote is going on, not during the normal reaction
period just before or after blocking decisions are made.
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In article <3g4fbv$3...@darkstar.ucsc.edu>,
Thomas R Wylie <aa...@cats.ucsc.edu> wrote:
>Lutz Hofmann <l...@cs.tu-berlin.de> wrote:>>>No. It is a reaction card so follows all the normal rules for such,
>>>except *when* it's played.>What I meant by "except
>when it's played" is that cards such as Surprise Influence or Bewitching
>Oration are played while a vote is going on, not during the normal reaction
>period just before or after blocking decisions are made.
Yes!! It is on the card. ... usable during political action ...
I thought, that i missed a general rule. Therefore playing these cards, does
not let me draw another card for replacement as we are in a political action.
And before voting starts they cannot be played. Good.
Yours Sincerely Lutz Hofmann
l...@cs.tu-berlin.de
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Thomas R Wylie (aa...@cats.ucsc.edu) wrote:
: Lutz Hofmann <l...@cs.tu-berlin.de> wrote:
: >Please elaborate on the exception. May i play Elder Kindred Network, Dread: >Gaze, Surprise Influence etc. as reaction on my own vote?: No, since you can't react to your own action. What I meant by "except
: when it's played" is that cards such as Surprise Influence or Bewitching
: Oration are played while a vote is going on, not during the normal reaction
: period just before or after blocking decisions are made.
Doesn't this mean that the person calling a vote is completely vulnerable to
Vote Modifying cards like Dread Gaze, S.I., etc. If his vote can be messed
up by them, but he can't play them himself?! This doesn't make sense! Why
give Vampires vote-modifying powers, if they can't use them on votes by
their own Meth? Isn't that pretty much the whole point? To hold political
modifier cards in your hand, and hope you have enough to keep the other
Meths from voiding your vote and hitting you with five political Backlashes
(This actually happened to me once, which is why I think Dread Gaze and S.I.
should be usable by the acting Meth! The vote was defeated, moreover, by a
S.I., which only managed to make it a TIE!)
R.A.H. Elf of the redwoods, Sonoma Valley, Breakfast Cereal Country.
: : No, since you can't react to your own action. What I meant by "except: : when it's played" is that cards such as Surprise Influence or Bewitching
: : Oration are played while a vote is going on, not during the normal reaction
: : period just before or after blocking decisions are made.: Doesn't this mean that the person calling a vote is completely vulnerable to
: Vote Modifying cards like Dread Gaze, S.I., etc. If his vote can be messed
: up by them, but he can't play them himself?! This doesn't make sense! Why
: give Vampires vote-modifying powers, if they can't use them on votes by
: their own Meth? Isn't that pretty much the whole point? To hold political
: modifier cards in your hand, and hope you have enough to keep the other
: Meths from voiding your vote and hitting you with five political Backlashes
Ahem. This is what BEWITCHING ORATIONS are for. Reaction cards can only
be played when it is *not your turn*, anyways, which is the main reasion
you can't react to your own actions. But you can slap a Bewitching
Oration on your voting vampire in the middle of a political action to
gain 2/4 votes. You use BOs when you're voting, and DGs when someone else
is voting. Forces you to keep your deck well-tuned. :-)
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Purple Kitty (pki...@netcom.com) wrote:
: Ahem. This is what BEWITCHING ORATIONS are for. Reaction cards can only: be played when it is *not your turn*, anyways, which is the main reasion
: you can't react to your own actions. But you can slap a Bewitching
: Oration on your voting vampire in the middle of a political action to
: gain 2/4 votes. You use BOs when you're voting, and DGs when someone else
: is voting. Forces you to keep your deck well-tuned. :-)
Um... I was always under the impression that you can't play a Bewitching
Oration once the action is underway (ie once votes are being taken). As an
action modifier, it seems to me that you'd have to play the Bewitching
Oration when the action is being declared. Anyone have an official answer?
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Yu Ping Hu (y...@interport.net) wrote:
: Purple Kitty (pki...@netcom.com) wrote:
: : Ahem. This is what BEWITCHING ORATIONS are for. Reaction cards can only: : be played when it is *not your turn*, anyways, which is the main reasion
: : you can't react to your own actions. But you can slap a Bewitching
: : Oration on your voting vampire in the middle of a political action to
: : gain 2/4 votes. You use BOs when you're voting, and DGs when someone else
: : is voting. Forces you to keep your deck well-tuned. :-): Um... I was always under the impression that you can't play a Bewitching: Oration once the action is underway (ie once votes are being taken). As an
: action modifier, it seems to me that you'd have to play the Bewitching
: Oration when the action is being declared. Anyone have an official answer?
Well, the card does say "Can only be played DURING a political action",
which is the middle of a vote! I think this is what the official ruling
is (I've seen something on it around here), but even if it isn't, you can
still play a BO while casting the vote!
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In article <pkittyD3...@netcom.com>, pki...@netcom.com (Purple Kitty)
wrote:
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i don't want to continue this thread, but you guys are missing something
really obvious. Bewitching Oration (or B.O. as i like to call it!) is an
action modifier. in other words, the vamp calling the vote has B.O.
and yes, you may only use reaction cards to someone else's action.
this should clear it all up
Harpua