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Darkness Within q?

6 messages from 4 participants · 10 May 2002 – 13 May 2002
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Tal...@nodamspamhotmail.com

As the move blood effect of DW ocurrs in strike resolution, is this before or after any damage inflicted during the same strike resolution to that same minion? T

LSJ

[ quoted text not captured ] Simultaneous with the application of strike effects (which is all before handling damage). -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

vermillian

Tal...@nodamspamhotmail.com wrote in message news:<3cdb5ee5.384041125@news>... > As the move blood effect of DW ocurrs in strike resolution, is this > before or after any damage inflicted during the same strike resolution > to that same minion? This is my guess... Normal strike resolution has no additional steps to it (strike resolution itself has already been broken into SCE, Dodging, First Strike, then Normal SR)... So I would just say that it would go on the order of the acting methuselah's choice... Am I wrong? ~SV

Joshua Duffin

"vermillian" <vermil...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:f987c6cd.0205...@posting.google.com... [ quoted text not captured ] Slightly wrong. Normal strike resolution = first, effects of strikes are applied. Then, there is the "burn blood for damage" step (in which damage prevention can be played). Darkness Within's effect (like that of Wolf Companion, etc etc) is simultaneous with "apply effects of strikes". But because you don't burn blood/go to torpor for damage in that step, you'll move blood for DW before the DW'd vamp starts suffering the effects of damage. This is the same reason that blood gained from "steal blood" effects can be used to heal damage in the same strike resolution. ("Steal blood" strikes resolve at the same time as all other normal strikes, but since they aren't damage they don't have to wait for the damage-handling step.) Or, short answer: Darkness Within "takes effect" before damage inflicted in the same strike resolution (ie the first normal strike resolution in a round) is applied. Josh thinks this was answered by LSJ already in this thread, but he may not have gone into as much detail...

Tal...@nodamspamhotmail.com

On Fri, 10 May 2002 07:57:55 -0400, LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote: >Tal...@nodamspamhotmail.com wrote: >> >> As the move blood effect of DW ocurrs in strike resolution, is this >> before or after any damage inflicted during the same strike resolution >> to that same minion? > >Simultaneous with the application of strike effects (which is all before >handling damage). > So it removes the blood whenyou figure out what the strikes do, kinda like the same time that theft steals blood? And all before damage prevention which is where damage is actually applied from strikes/environmental? T

LSJ

[ quoted text not captured ] > prevention which is where damage is actually [handled] from > strikes/environmental? Yes. [ quoted text not captured ]