Malkavian Rider Clause Question(s)

Talking with a fellow Methuselah on interesting combos has brought this question forward. When does the Malkavian Rider Clause vote have to be called? The next turn the Malkavian player starts? Or can it be held until the Malkavian player is ready to call a vote (possibly a few turns in the future)? Additionally, can Malkavian Rider Clauses be "stored"? (i.e. having them stack up due to a high quantity of votes being called on the table) If they can be stored, are all of them used up on the next vote that is called or can they be used to pass separate individual votes from the Malkavian player? Michael Eichler Prince of Ramstein -- Worry comes from the belief you are powerless. (So get in there and kick some butt!) Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

Ramsteiner <ramst...@my-deja.com> wrote: > When does the Malkavian Rider Clause vote have to be called? The next > turn the Malkavian player starts? Or can it be held until the > Malkavian player is ready to call a vote (possibly a few turns in the > future)? Held indefinitely. > Additionally, can Malkavian Rider Clauses be "stored"? (i.e. having > them stack up due to a high quantity of votes being called on the > table) If they can be stored, are all of them used up on the next vote > that is called or can they be used to pass separate individual votes > from the Malkavian player? They would all be "used up" in making the next referendum you call pass. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) VTES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/ [ quoted text not captured ]

In article <8h302c$3ne$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote: > Ramsteiner <ramst...@my-deja.com> wrote: <snip>> > > Additionally, can Malkavian Rider Clauses be "stored"? (i.e. having > > them stack up due to a high quantity of votes being called on the > > table) If they can be stored, are all of them used up on the next vote > > that is called or can they be used to pass separate individual votes > > from the Malkavian player? > > They would all be "used up" in making the next referendum you call > pass. > I can see the "logic" for all of them being used up on the next referendum called, however, each are individual reaction cards that occurred at different times. But with Anarch Revolt, you have to call separate votes to remove each copy of the card in play. Why wouldn't just one vote do it all for all copies then? Michael Eichler Prince of Ramstein -- Worry comes from the belief you are powerless. (So get in there and kick some butt!) [ quoted text not captured ]

Ramsteiner wrote: > LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote: > > Ramsteiner <ramst...@my-deja.com> wrote: > > > Additionally, can Malkavian Rider Clauses be "stored"? > > They would all be "used up" in making the next referendum you call > > pass. > > > I can see the "logic" for all of them being used up on the next > referendum called, however, each are individual reaction cards that > occurred at different times. But with Anarch Revolt, you have to call > separate votes to remove each copy of the card in play. Why wouldn't > just one vote do it all for all copies then? Card text. MRCs say that they make the "next" vote pass. So, after (redundantly) making the next vote pass, their effects are ended. AR is burned by a vote. It doesn't say "All AR in play can be burned by a vote", but just that "this card" can be. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. [ quoted text not captured ]