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Zombie vs Nephandus

5 messages from 4 participants · 27 March 2007 – 28 March 2007
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Raille

Nephandus (Mage) [Sabbat:R, Tenth:A, Third:R] Cardtype: Ally Clan: Tremere antitribu Cost: 2 pool Mage with 2 life. 0 strength, 1 bleed. The Nephandus may strike for 1R damage. The Nephandus gets an optional press each combat. Each strike or damaging effect made against the Nephandus by the opposing minion during combat inflicts 1 less damage. The Nephandus may burn a vampire in torpor to gain 1 life as a (D) action. Zombie [DS:C2, FN:PG] Cardtype: Retainer Clan: Giovanni Cost: 1 blood Zombie with 2 life. When the minion with this retainer is in combat, the opposing minion takes 1 additional damage during strike resolution if range is close. As a +1 stealth action, the vampire with this retainer may burn the Zombie to gain 2 blood. So if a minion in combat with a zombie fighting nephandus should in theory inflict 1 damage, modified by the zombie to inflict 1 additional, while nephandus reduces the original inflict 1, resulting in a net 1 damage to the mage. Both Zombie and Mage share the same style verbage. increase damage/ decrease damage. as a comparison a Wolf companion or Murder of Crows inflicts 1 damage, not additional damage. So is the the following true Minion A, zombie equiped, does an effective 1 damage to nephandus at close range. Raille

LSJ

[ quoted text not captured ] Yes. Damage from the Zombie is not affected by Nephandus' text, since the Zombie is not the opposing minion. Similarly for Wolf Companion. Neither Zombie nor Wolf increases the damage the minion inflicts with his strike, however.

Klai...@gmail.com

[ quoted text not captured ] > strike, however.- Piilota siteerattu teksti - > > - Näytä siteerattu teksti - A somehow related question.... does Nephandus' text affect Aeron's special ability? I would quess no since its worded rather similarly to wolf companion, but its text on the vampire card itself so wanting to check.

LSJ

Klai...@gmail.com wrote: > A somehow related question.... does Nephandus' text affect Aeron's > special ability? I would quess no since its worded rather similarly to > wolf companion, but its text on the vampire card itself so wanting to > check. Remember to snip the unused quoted material. Your guess is correct.

CthuluKitty

> So is the the following true > > Minion A, zombie equiped, does an effective 1 damage to nephandus at > close range. Yes, but only because, as Scott says, the damage is not from the minion. Same goes for Wolf Companion, Carrion Crows, etc. The way Nephandus is worded is actually kind of stupid. As far as I'm aware, the only things he reduces damage from are strikes and Twisting the Knife. I guess it would be clearer if he just reduced strike damage, since Twisting the Knife is completely unplayable.