How many ranked players in VEKN ?

So that's pretty much the question. Fact is : it's always nice to know where you're ranking among international players, but it really doesn't mean the same if you're, say, 200th in 400 players or in 2000 !! So, can we have an (approximative) "official" number of the VEKN tournament players ? Thanks. -- Orpheus Nearly made it to LSJ's Killfile !!

Orpheus wrote: > So that's pretty much the question. Fact is : it's always nice to know where > you're ranking among international players, but it really doesn't mean the > same if you're, say, 200th in 400 players or in 2000 !! > > So, can we have an (approximative) "official" number of the VEKN tournament > players ? A quick search of all US players reveals that there are 571 players listed, of which 333 have a rating greater than zero. Feel free to extrapolate to other continents, I think your final number will be closer to 2000 than it is to 400. Rob Grau rfg...@eos.ncsu.edu

> Orpheus wrote: > > So that's pretty much the question. Fact is : it's always nice to know where > > you're ranking among international players, but it really doesn't mean the > > same if you're, say, 200th in 400 players or in 2000 !! > > > > So, can we have an (approximative) "official" number of the VEKN tournament > > players ? > > A quick search of all US players reveals that there are 571 players > listed, of which 333 have a rating greater than zero. How do you do that search ? I can only have access to the 50 best of each country on the VEKN rankings page... > Feel free to extrapolate to other continents, I think your final number > will be closer to 2000 than it is to 400. I'd guess somewhere in the 1000, but I'd like to have a more precise idea anyway. Thanks for your input Rob. -- Duncan O'rpheus, of the O'rpheus clan from the scottish highlands.

[ quoted text not captured ] Perhaps Robyn could give you stats for number of distinct players in tournaments in 2006.

Orpheus wrote: > > Orpheus wrote: > > > So that's pretty much the question. Fact is : it's always nice to know > where > > > you're ranking among international players, but it really doesn't mean > the > > > same if you're, say, 200th in 400 players or in 2000 !! > > > > > > So, can we have an (approximative) "official" number of the VEKN > tournament > > > players ? > > > > A quick search of all US players reveals that there are 571 players > > listed, of which 333 have a rating greater than zero. > > How do you do that search ? I can only have access to the 50 best of each > country on the VEKN rankings page... On the search page, I went to "View Rankings by Country and City" then selected a country and left the city set to "All". This will be a lot more difficult in Europe as we've only got three countries in North America. Also note, I searched the constructed rankings. Probably the best option is to wait for the official word, as I have no idea how up to date the online database is. (Particularly in regards to players with a rating of 0) Rob Grau rfg...@eos.ncsu.edu PS - There were 208 Canadian players listed, of which 117 had a rating greater than 0 and there were 30 Mexican players listed, of which 21 had a rating greater than 0.

[ quoted text not captured ] Currently there are almost 11,000 registered vekn members. Knock off 100 for duplicates and bogus entries. (I'm currently doing an audit...) But, lets just examine calendar year 2006, concentrating on Number of Events. Sanctioned, rated events, both limited and constructed. (exclude Pre-releases, Storyline and any other non sanctioned event.) The numbers are based on Vekn ID. I am almost finished with an audit of the registry and player history. Cleaning up folks with two numbers and games in both, consolidating, correcting etc. Also want to mention that these numbers come from tournaments reported to me. There are still some that happen that don't get included. 2357 unique people played in a tournament this year. (Which has a few weeks left) 1279 played in more than one event. 1078 only played in one event. 93 played in more than 10 events. In order to even HAVE a ranking you must play in 8 sanctioned, rated events in an 18 month period starting with today (Dec 7) and moving back to June 7th, 2005. For that 18 month period 3209 unique folks played in an event. 1856 played in more than one. 1353 played in only 1. 222 played in more than 10. uh.... yeah... well. I hope that helps to answer your question. Robyn Tatu

[ quoted text not captured ] Robyn, you're my Angel !! ;-) Couldn't hope for a better answer. Now I gotta reach your place you in the rankings ;-) (you're 11 places before me !). And did you notice that the guy just before you right now is the "hero" of Turino, the great swiss player ? Kisses to the Tatus, -- Orpheus ------------------------- "You'll regret being so damn abusive when the electric UFO gods transphase in from dimension ten to appoint me manager of the universe". The Drummer, in Planetary.

Excellent Robyn, I hope I gone bring more player soon. See you, Olivier rob...@mindspring.com a écrit : [ quoted text not captured ]

rob...@mindspring.com schrieb: > In order to even HAVE a ranking you must play in 8 sanctioned, rated > events in an 18 month period starting with today (Dec 7) and moving > back to June 7th, 2005. I thought that was UP TO 8 sanctioned, rated tournaments that will be counted? As far as I understood rating starts with the first tournament somebody plays. -- johannes walch

[ quoted text not captured ] You have to have at least 8 tournaments under your belt (within an 18 month period) before you can get a rating. Your 8 top events, if you play more, count toward that rating. Robyn

[ quoted text not captured ] hi Robyn! I remember you mentioning this before... but in practice, it looks like the database isn't requiring 8 tournaments to create ratings at the moment? To pick an example rating out of the US list because it's easy, Chris Berg (#2120037) has only 4 events appearing in the VEKN database, but is ranked ... what, #241 in the world, but substantially higher in the US listings (which is how I came across his entry). And two of them are limited tournaments, and two constructed, so he actually has reasonably good ratings in both (because he's won one of each). Seems like a good thing to me - maybe the functionality that you didn't think was there actually is? Hopefully it's not that something is horribly messed up and the ratings aren't actually "right". :-) Josh while shepherds watch are keeping

Joshua Duffin schrieb: > Seems like a good thing to me - maybe the functionality that you didn't > think was there actually is? Hopefully it's not that something is > horribly messed up and the ratings aren't actually "right". :-) Absolutely! I find it rather discouraging for new player if they only get ranked after 8 tournaments in 18mo. Heck, some even play less than that number so they will never get ranked. And since there is no advantage in having fewer rated tournaments (as it was before) I see no problem with the current status. -- johannes walch

[ quoted text not captured ] Wait, a discussion of the ratings system? Cue Fred Scott. best - chris

"librarian" <ino...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message news:1166029031....@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com... [ quoted text not captured ] Here's my opinion: Bleh! Who cares? I can run maybe two VEKN rated tournaments a year in my area, those are the only ones that get run within 400 miles of me or any of my people, and when I run them and submit the results, the results have more often than not failed to get entered no matter what I do. Why would I *possibly* care at what point the random rating number becomes random enough to calculate a random ranking number? Fred