I've got a couple of questions about Jyhad that I would appreciate if
someone could answer. Here we go:
1. Does a vampire have to be untapped to play reaction cards? It says in the
rulebook that "a vampire doesn't tap when playing..."
2. How fast can you sacrifice the edge? If you have the edge and a threat
counter, you might wan't to hang on to the edge for some reason (like
if you need it for a vote soon). If you then are succesfully bled can
you fast as hell sacrifice the edge before your predator gets it.
(Naturally the predator would get it, but before or after the sacrifice?)
3. When are you allowed to play Cat's guidance? It say's immediately after
the vampire blocks or something like that, but is this the very second
the block is succesful or right after the ensuing combat?
4. If you have three short term investments in play, can you take 3 blood
from them (1 each) each master phase? I think you should only be allowed
to take one since you take one blood instead of playing a master card.
Thanx!
Tom Lindahl
Gothenburg
Tom Lindahl <d2linto@dtek.chalmers.se> wrote:
>1. Does a vampire have to be untapped to play reaction cards?...
Yes.
>2. How fast can you sacrifice the edge? If you have the edge and a threat
> counter, you might wan't to hang on to the edge for some reason (like
> if you need it for a vote soon). If you then are succesfully bled can
> you fast as hell sacrifice the edge before your predator gets it.
> (Naturally the predator would get it, but before or after the sacrifice?)
You can turn the edge in whenever you feel like it (I'm assuming you're asking
about Sabbat Threat and such).
>3. When are you allowed to play Cat's guidance? It say's immediately after
> the vampire blocks or something like that, but is this the very second
> the block is succesful or right after the ensuing combat?
You would play it just before the combat begins.
>4. If you have three short term investments in play, can you take 3 blood
> from them (1 each) each master phase? I think you should only be allowed
> to take one since you take one blood instead of playing a master card.
You spend a master action to take one counter off one Investment. You cannot
take off multiple Investment counters without multiple master actions.
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Before I could do anything to stop it, Tom Lindahl wrote:
> 1. Does a vampire have to be untapped to play reaction cards? It says in the
> rulebook that "a vampire doesn't tap when playing..."
Yes, a vampire must be untapped to play reaction cards, unless the card
specifically says otherwise (for example, Wake with Evening's Freshness).
> 2. How fast can you sacrifice the edge? If you have the edge and a threat
> counter, you might wan't to hang on to the edge for some reason (like
> if you need it for a vote soon). If you then are succesfully bled can
> you fast as hell sacrifice the edge before your predator gets it.
> (Naturally the predator would get it, but before or after the sacrifice?)
You can give up the Edge at any time. It boils down to a "slap" situation
if you wait for that bleed to occur, though, and if you use it for a
vote, you keep the threat counters. Probably better just to give up the
Edge and lose the counters. What can the Edge give you, really? One vote,
maybe. One blood if you keep it, but you'll lose blood if you keep the
counters.
> 3. When are you allowed to play Cat's guidance? It say's immediately after
> the vampire blocks or something like that, but is this the very second
> the block is succesful or right after the ensuing combat?
Combat is part of blocking. Play Cat's Guidance after the combat has
ended, but before the acting Methuselah can begin another action or move
into their influence phase.
> 4. If you have three short term investments in play, can you take 3 blood
> from them (1 each) each master phase? I think you should only be allowed
> to take one since you take one blood instead of playing a master card.
You are exactly right. You take one blood instead of playing a master
card, so you can only remove one blood. The only exceptions are when you
have Anson and/or Rumors of Gahenna (sp) in play, which each let you play
2 master cards during your master phase. You could give up two cards and
take 2 blood off of the investment.
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>>>>> "TRW" == Thomas R Wylie <aahz@cats.ucsc.edu> writes:
TRW> Tom Lindahl <d2linto@dtek.chalmers.se> wrote:
>3. When are you allowed to play Cat's guidance? It say's immediately after
> the vampire blocks or something like that, but is this the very second
> the block is succesful or right after the ensuing combat?
TRW> You would play it just before the combat begins.
Um, isn't Cat's Guidance the Animalism card that allows you to "untap this
vampire just after it has successfully blocked?" Why does this need to be
done just before combat begins? I had been thinking of it as untapping
after finishing the resulting combat in a block. Is this ruling so that I
can't draw a Cat's Guidance during combat and this use it to untap after
the combat?
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Any combat resulting from blocking an action happens after the action has
been blocked. The state of "blocking an action" doesn't really carry through
the combat, even though people talk about the "blocking minion" when combat
is discussed. Cat's Guidance must be used just before combat begins.
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In article <3d0961$r51@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>,
Thomas R Wylie <aahz@cats.ucsc.edu> wrote:
>
>Any combat resulting from blocking an action happens after the action has
>been blocked. The state of "blocking an action" doesn't really carry through
>the combat, even though people talk about the "blocking minion" when combat
>is discussed. Cat's Guidance must be used just before combat begins.
>
Then how can Form of Mist work? It's still pretty nebulous. Combat
can be thought of as the actual blocking of the action, after all (Rake
stops Democritus from calling a vote by throwing a car at him). And
Form of Mist will let the action continue, implicitly arguing that the
action isn't done with until combat is over. That's the conceptual
arguement. Next is the logistical arguement (they're two separate
arguements).
If both of these cards come together, you get a paradox under this
ruling that isn't there under the after combat ruling. Say Wynn blocks
Badger. Wynn then plays Cat's Guidance and they go into combat. Badger
strikes with Form of Mist, and the action continues. Now Wynn hasn't
successfully blocked the action, so he couldn't have played Cat's
Guidance. Oops. If the action isn't over until after the combat, then
Wynn doesn't get the chance to play it at all, and there's no paradox
since the action isn't successfully blocked by him.
The only reason that I can think of to have CG be limited to before
combat is to prevent drawing one in the middle of combat. But since
drawing and immediately using cards is one of the features of this
game, that's not really a concern.
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Joe Cochran <jsciv@megavolt.cc.vt.edu> wrote:
>>Any combat resulting from blocking an action happens after the action has
>>been blocked. The state of "blocking an action" doesn't really carry through
>>the combat, even though people talk about the "blocking minion" when combat
>>is discussed. Cat's Guidance must be used just before combat begins.>Then how can Form of Mist work?...
It breaks the rules.
>ruling that isn't there under the after combat ruling. Say Wynn blocks
>Badger. Wynn then plays Cat's Guidance and they go into combat. Badger
>strikes with Form of Mist, and the action continues. Now Wynn hasn't
>successfully blocked the action...
Wynn *did* block the action. Form of Mist just allows the action to
continue anyway, which normally can't happen.
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