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Clanless + Camarilla = Caitiff?

6 messages from 4 participants · 17 September 2002 – 18 September 2002
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Jozxyqk

What happens if the Great Beast, or a Shock Troop, gets a Writ of Acceptance? He's Clanless and Camarilla, does that make him Caitiff?

LSJ

[ quoted text not captured ] No. Caitiff are clanless and Camarilla. But not all clanless Camarilla vampires are Caitiff. Analogy: Dogs are mammals and have four legs. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

Jozxyqk

> Caitiff are clanless and Camarilla. > But not all clanless Camarilla vampires are Caitiff. > Analogy: > Dogs are mammals and have four legs. Aha. But I'm talking about what happens if the dog chews off one of its legs (joins the Camarilla; an interesting metaphor, but I digress... :) ). A 3-legged mammal, it's still a dog, but it's a special kind of dog now; we treat it differently. The Camarilla would call all of their clanless "Caitiff", I'd think. But I suppose its where game balance overrides story..

Archibald Zimonyi

> Analogy: > > Dogs are mammals and have four legs. > Hmmm... but cows also have four legs. I don't get it. Archibald Zimonyi Malkavian Prince of Gothenburg

The Lasombra

On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 06:12:24 +0200, Archibald Zimonyi <pri...@vekn.nu> wrote: >> Analogy: >> Dogs are mammals and have four legs. >Hmmm... but cows also have four legs. >I don't get it. Oh, but you did. Not all Mammals that have four legs are dogs. Mammals ~= Camarilla Dogs ~= Clanless 4 Legs ~= Caitiff Not all Clanless Camarilla vampires are Caitiff. Carpe noctem. Lasombra http://www.TheLasombra.com

Archibald Zimonyi

> Oh, but you did. > Not all Mammals that have four legs are dogs. > > > Mammals ~= Camarilla > Dogs ~= Clanless > 4 Legs ~= Caitiff > > Not all Clanless Camarilla vampires are Caitiff. > I'm not worthy. [ quoted text not captured ]