rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Three Questions

5 messages from 4 participants · 14 April 1997 – 15 April 1997
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David Pontes

Hi! I've been playing a while longer and came up with some tough ones: 1) Vamp A with sup. Protean is the acting minion and does the Form of Mist trick. However the Auspexed Assamites tries to Fast Reaction vamp A. What happens to the action and the minions? 2) Forced awakening states that "if the minon fails to block, it burns one blood.". Does this mean that if he attempts to block and fails, he burns a blood, or that if he doesn't block the action after the forced awakening was played, he burns a blood? (language problem here). 3) In the rulebook it is stated that "if a methuselah is ousted the same turn his prey is ousted, he doesn't gain 6 pool but gains the victory point." Does this mean that if I have a weenie deck and manage to oust 6 players in a turn with my bleeds I only gain 1 VP (for the other meths have gained the rest)? Thanks! David Pontes 8[

L. Scott Johnson

David Pontes wrote: > 1) Vamp A with sup. Protean is the acting minion and does the > Form of Mist trick. However the Auspexed Assamites tries to Fast Reaction > vamp A. What happens to the action and the minions? The "continue" effect of the Mist is lost if another combat is forced. So, the Assamite gets to beat on VampA, and (unless Vamp A plays another Form of Mist as his strike in the second round of the Reaction combat), that's the end of the story. The action does not continue. > 2) Forced awakening states that "if the minon fails to block, it > burns one blood.". Does this mean that if he attempts to block and fails, > he burns a blood, or that if he doesn't block the action after the forced > awakening was played, he burns a blood? (language problem here). The latter. If he plays Forced Awakening and does not block the action, he burns a blood. > 3) In the rulebook it is stated that "if a methuselah is ousted > the same turn his prey is ousted, he doesn't gain 6 pool but gains the > victory point." Does this mean that if I have a weenie deck and manage to > oust 6 players in a turn with my bleeds I only gain 1 VP (for the other > meths have gained the rest)? The rulebook has errata changing "same turn" to "same time". So, if you oust 6 players with *successive* actions, you gain 6 VP. -- L. Scott Johnson (vte...@regency.wizards.com) Official VtES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. (*) - Subject to review by Rules Team

James Hamblin

L. Scott Johnson wrote: > > > 2) Forced awakening states that "if the minon fails to block, it > > burns one blood.". Does this mean that if he attempts to block and fails, > > he burns a blood, or that if he doesn't block the action after the forced > > awakening was played, he burns a blood? (language problem here). > > The latter. > If he plays Forced Awakening and does not block the action, he burns a blood. Just a quick question about Forced Awakening which came up while adjudicating at UBCon... The burnt blood is not damage, right? So, a zero blood vampire who fails to block with FA pays no cost, since it has no blood to burn, correct? Thanks. James -- James E. Hamblin je...@cornell.edu "There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. ... Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender." -- G'Kar, Babylon 5: "Z'ha'dum"

salem christ....

David Pontes wrote: > > Hi! I've been playing a while longer and came up with some tough > ones: i'll leave the first one to LSJ...(what does that "L" stand for, anyway?) > 2) Forced awakening states that "if the minon fails to block, it > burns one blood.". Does this mean that if he attempts to block and fails, > he burns a blood, or that if he doesn't block the action after the forced > awakening was played, he burns a blood? (language problem here). um...yes and yes, as far as i can tell. the vampire must be tapped to play the card, and so when he plays it (assuming a male vampire here..) he attempts to block or react as though he were untapped (without actually untapping.) If he tries to block: If the acting minion then plays more stealth than the vampire blocking can get intercept, or the attemped blocker is prevented from blocking by some other means (superior elder impersonation, etc..) then that attempted blocker burns one blood. if he reacts without trying to block (deflection, telepathic counter, etc..) and thus doesn't block, he then burns one blood. or if he just plays the card to cycle cards, and does nothing, he burns a blood. > 3) In the rulebook it is stated that "if a methuselah is ousted > the same turn his prey is ousted, he doesn't gain 6 pool but gains the > victory point." Does this mean that if I have a weenie deck and manage to > oust 6 players in a turn with my bleeds I only gain 1 VP (for the other > meths have gained the rest)? no no no....ousted at the same _TIME_. ie: from a vote that makes more than one player lose all their pool, or something similar.... if you bleed one person out of the game, you get six pool straight away, unless you yourself would be ousted without that pool. and you get a vp. if you then oust the next methuselah on the same turn, you get another 6 pool and another vp... salem....who wants to be an official vtes errata person when he grows up, instead of an actuary.

L. Scott Johnson

James Hamblin wrote: > L. Scott Johnson wrote: > > If he plays Forced Awakening and does not block the action, he burns > > a blood. > > Just a quick question about Forced Awakening which came up while > adjudicating at UBCon... > > The burnt blood is not damage, right? So, a zero blood vampire who > fails to block with FA pays no cost, since it has no blood to burn, > correct? Burned blood is never damage; burned blood in excess of a vampire's currently blood supply is ignored. [ quoted text not captured ]