Ink Problems?

Has anybody else noticed the Ink Color differences in DS? I have two Praxis Seizure: Amsterdam. (one with green color, and one with blue). And half of my master cards are different shades of grey than the others. What gives? Greg

In article <4a4giq$a...@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>, faul...@mail.utexas.edu (Greg Faulkner) writes: [ quoted text not captured ] I have noticed this as well and it probably is just printing problems. On a side note has anyone witnessed any wear and tear on their new V:TES cards? A friend of mine bought some V:TES cards a couple weeks ago and has playing with a few in his deck (composed mostly of Jyhad cards). While his Jyhad cards bought months (a year?) ago are still new the edges of the V:TES card is already showing signs of wear (fading edges). Some one also mentioned a while back that the ink on their V:TES cards was smearing... I hope these are isolated instances, but don't see how they could be. ~Biomechanoid

In article <4a4giq$a...@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>, faul...@mail.utexas.edu (Greg Faulkner) spammed: # #Has anybody else noticed the Ink Color differences in DS? I have two Praxis #Seizure: Amsterdam. (one with green color, and one with blue). And half of #my master cards are different shades of grey than the others. #What gives? I'd have to say that the cards are darn cool, except for you're right, some of the cards are discolored. Hey Tom!!!! Did Wotc print these at Carta Mundi or not???? -- Greg Zuvich |gzu...@symantec.com

Thomas R Wylie (aa...@cats.ucsc.edu) wrote: : There was a new problem in the VTES printing process, however, concerning : the ink. The ink takes longer to dry properly than was anticipated, so : at least some of the VTES print run smudges too easily. This may have : also affected some of the print run of Dark Sovereigns (I don't remember). You mean the cards were smudged in shipping, or they'll smudge when you handle them? The latter can be handled [pun unintentional], I suppose, by giving them some time to dry after you open the packs. But the former--hmmm, if the backs become smudged then the card is completely useless... Why the switch from Carta Mundi, anyway? -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- | "What is a man without the beasts? If the beasts were gone, | | man would die from a great loneliness of spirit." | | "Confuse, annoy, and dee-STROY!!" Call me "Nicole" and I | | npu...@tiger.lsu.edu -- Jet...@aol.com will have to kill you. | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

VTES and Dark Soveregins were printed at the US Playing Card Co. Yes, there are occasional color problems, but Carte Mundi has always been the same way. I have a pair of Urza's Mitres that look like they're from different editions of the Gathering, a handful of Carte Mundi Tremere in which half of the clan borders look almost beige, etc. There was a new problem in the VTES printing process, however, concerning the ink. The ink takes longer to dry properly than was anticipated, so at least some of the VTES print run smudges too easily. This may have also affected some of the print run of Dark Sovereigns (I don't remember). Tom Wylie rec.games.trading-cards.* Network Representative for aa...@cats.ucsc.edu Wizards of the Coast, Inc.

In article <4a9o0g$2g...@tiger3.ocs.lsu.edu>, npu...@tiger.lsu.edu (Nicole Janine Purvis) spammed: Why the switch from Carta Mundi, anyway? The almighty $$$. It would be more expensive to print at Carta Mundi, besides V:TES isn't that popular and doesn't need the quality card support does it?... errrr... hh-he-e-em.... -- Greg Zuvich |gzu...@symantec.com

Thomas R Wylie (aa...@cats.ucsc.edu) wrote: : There was a new problem in the VTES printing process, however, concerning : the ink. The ink takes longer to dry properly than was anticipated, so : at least some of the VTES print run smudges too easily. This may have : also affected some of the print run of Dark Sovereigns (I don't remember). : : : Tom Wylie rec.games.trading-cards.* Network Representative for : aa...@cats.ucsc.edu Wizards of the Coast, Inc. I would just like to congratulate Wotc and the US PLAYING CARD CO on an extremely high quality product =) -- _________________________________________________________ |* Nik Olver. Email: np-o...@uwe.ac.uk *| | Join the JYHAD or Vampire:The Eternal Struggle at | |*__ http://zen.btc.uwe.ac.uk/~np-olver/Welcome.html __*|

In article <4a4giq$a...@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>, faul...@mail.utexas.edu (Greg Faulkner) writes: >Has anybody else noticed the Ink Color differences in DS? I have two Praxis >Seizure: Amsterdam. (one with green color, and one with blue). And half of >my master cards are different shades of grey than the others. > >What gives? > >Greg Yeah, but the problems are not as noticeble as they are in the VTES cards. It looks like they got a little better. The real problem I have with the card printing (and maybe it's just me) is that the ink seems to rub off. I mean, the black borders on my VTES cards are getting rubbed to white much more than my older Jyhad cards. Is anybody else having this problem? Abdula, the butcher

>Sorry, to be more precise: the ink rubs off a lot more easily than it should. >I don't know how much letting them cure once out of the packs will help, >but I'd imagine it will help some. I sure havent noticed any ink rubbing off, but I have noticed that the ink/lamination on Vtes and DS is thicker and stickier to the fingers than the jyhad ones... iow you cut to the Vtes cards more often and there hard to shuffle, ie: I have like 15 of the "new cards" in my 90 card deck... I've played about 10 games since putting them in, shuffled the thing an incidious number of times and always, always they come up in groups of at least 3.... ~mage bob

Nicole Janine Purvis <npu...@tiger.lsu.edu> wrote: >: There was a new problem in the VTES printing process, however, concerning >: the ink. The ink takes longer to dry properly than was anticipated, so >: at least some of the VTES print run smudges too easily. This may have >: also affected some of the print run of Dark Sovereigns (I don't remember). > You mean the cards were smudged in shipping, or they'll smudge when you >handle them? The latter can be handled [pun unintentional], I suppose, by >giving them some time to dry after you open the packs. But the >former--hmmm, if the backs become smudged then the card is completely >useless... Why the switch from Carta Mundi, anyway? Sorry, to be more precise: the ink rubs off a lot more easily than it should. I don't know how much letting them cure once out of the packs will help, but I'd imagine it will help some. [ quoted text not captured ]

In article <4aiqtp$5...@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, aa...@cats.ucsc.edu (Thomas R Wylie) writes: > >Sorry, to be more precise: the ink rubs off a lot more easily than it should. >I don't know how much letting them cure once out of the packs will help, >but I'd imagine it will help some. I've had some DS cards for two weeks and they have a sticky feeling to them (since I practically sterilize my hands before touching them and don't eat or drink around them after the dreaded "rootbeer" incident, the only thing I can attribute it to is the ink. I have used card sleeves for my play deck, but the cards in my box are still sticky. Is this due to the ink? How long are we supposed to wait to have them "cure"?