I haven’t seen much discussion at all around the new Hunger Moon
event, but I think there is some interesting potential here. What does
it mean? Basically, the next five hunts (assuming they are hunts for
one blood) that happen don’t actually happen; instead of getting
blood, it goes onto the event. If people are hunting for more than
one, it won’t stick around for as long .An Abactor will smack it down
in one go, but they won’t gain anything from it, assuming it didn’t
have any counters on it. Actually that’s a question; say there are
four counters on Hunger Moon and someone hunts for five with Abactor;
what happens? I’m actually thinking that you would move all five
counters onto the Hunger Moon, then go “there are five (or more)
counters on this card, so now I’ll remove it”. You wouldn’t resolve
each blood gain from the Abactor separately. Hmm.
Anyway I was thinking it has some potential for lockdown / blood
denial decks... but not a huge amount. E.g. I play a quite effective
Nostoket Haunting / Wall deck. Nostoket Haunts people and pings people
and locks the table down and eventually bleeds people out with
rubrics / edenic codex. It might seem so at first, but Hunger Moon
wouldn’t actually be that useful for the deck; once people are stuck
in a “haunting loop” (i.e. on zero blood, hunt, gain a blood, but burn
that blood next turnfrom Haunting and have to hunt again etc), then it
wouldn’t really matter if their hunts were unsuccessful, since they’re
basically never acting again (unless they gain more blood or get
Mylaned or whatever).
The better potential I was seeing for this card was more for rush or
block/fight decks. If my predator has two bleeders, and I rush and bin
one of them (put him down on zero blood), then on my predator’s turn,
assuming nobody has eaten, then the ready vampire will rescue the guy
who will be on zero blood and untapped and thus hunt. So I’ve
effectively taken away two bleed actions with one rush, which is nice.
(Let’s hope the binned guy doesn’t have a doll / vessel). However with
a Hunger Moon out, the hunt won’t work. That guy could be hunting
ineffectively for many more turns, meaning I have more potential for
forward actions, or can rush the other bleeder and really cripple my
predator (assuming that’s a good plan).
There could also be some cute synergy with Follow the Blood; if
someone hunts on zero, they gain nothing, but the hunt action was
successful (I believe?), so you can then Follow the Blood to enter
combat, but they have no blood, so can’t play Majesty or Skin of Steel
and any damage (like say Pyschic Assault, ranged unpreventable damage)
will likely put them down.
Any other ideas with this card? Maybe Free States Rant for shutting
down minions for several turns? Or am I on the wrong track?
On Mar 4, 6:39 pm, Dasein <dasein2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I haven’t seen much discussion at all around the new Hunger Moon
> event, but I think there is some interesting potential here. What does
> it mean? Basically, the next five hunts (assuming they are hunts for
> one blood) that happen don’t actually happen; instead of getting
> blood, it goes onto the event. If people are hunting for more than
> one, it won’t stick around for as long .An Abactor will smack it down
> in one go, but they won’t gain anything from it, assuming it didn’t
> have any counters on it. Actually that’s a question; say there are
> four counters on Hunger Moon and someone hunts for five with Abactor;
> what happens? I’m actually thinking that you would move all five
> counters onto the Hunger Moon, then go “there are five (or more)
> counters on this card, so now I’ll remove it”. You wouldn’t resolve
> each blood gain from the Abactor separately. Hmm.
Card text:
Whenever a vampire successully hunts, move 1 blood from that vampire
to this card. Burn this card when it has five counters.
It hasn't seen play yet, but I've added it to a Malk deck I have,
which combines moderate S+B with blood denial, inspired by The Ankou,
although he isn't as much of a focus as I'd originally planned
Society of Leopold, Muddled Vampire Hunters, Charisma, Young Bloods,
Unmasking, FBI Special Affairs, Deranges (previously hauntings), Sleep
of Reason, and now Hunger Moon. I run a couple of procurers in the
deck also, which will let me keep putting blood on vamps without
hunting.
I expect the Hunger Moons to improve it substsantially. With hunger
moon out put a Society on a vamp with 1 blood and he'll burn in two
turns due to the ineffective hunt. Add a derange the same turn and you
can nail a vamp with 2 blood
I find that it rounds the deck out well, still has a lot of bleed
power and can now handle vampires too. It does run into a lot more
trouble with intercept-heavy decks than traditional Malk as the
stealth is watered down
LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote:
> Card text:
> Whenever a vampire successully hunts, move 1 blood from that vampire
> to this card. Burn this card when it has five counters.
How does one "successully" hunt?
That's my flippant way of telling you you should fix the typos in the CSV.
See also: Thicker than Blood "Blood Bother". :)
On 5 mar, 01:01, Dragar <amnon_ko...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> It does run into a lot more
> trouble with intercept-heavy decks than traditional Malk as the
> stealth is watered down
Crocodile tongue is what you want: blood attrition first, then
unblockable actions.
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I don't see this deck concept winning any tournaments. Besides, not
too many ever do. I think it will complement combat decks already out
there, but that is it.
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They're not typos in the CSV. See: card images. Those typos are on the
cards themselves.
But on-card typos normally get a CSV errata, yeah. I imagine Scott'll
get on that right after the hordes (or is that hoards? ;) of vtes fans
stop asking him questions about the new sets' cards.
--
salem
Salem <kell...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Jozxyqk wrote:
> > LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote:
> >> Card text:
> >> Whenever a vampire successully hunts, move 1 blood from that vampire
> >> to this card. Burn this card when it has five counters.
> >
> > How does one "successully" hunt?
> >
> > That's my flippant way of telling you you should fix the typos in the CSV.
> >
> > See also: Thicker than Blood "Blood Bother". :)> They're not typos in the CSV. See: card images. Those typos are on the
> cards themselves.
Yes, Salem.. what do you think is used as the source for the card texts?
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 11:32:54 +0000 (UTC), Jozxyqk <jfeu...@eecs.tufts.edu>
wrote:
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Whatever it is, it definitely lacks spell-check.
--
Regards,
Daneel
On Mar 7, 4:57 pm, Daneel <dan...@eposta.hu> wrote:
> On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 11:32:54 +0000 (UTC), Jozxyqk <jfeue...@eecs.tufts.edu>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Salem <kella...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> Jozxyqk wrote:> >> > LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote:
> >> >> Card text:
> >> >> Whenever a vampire successully hunts, move 1 blood from that vampire
> >> >> to this card. Burn this card when it has five counters.
>
> >> > How does one "successully" hunt?
>
> >> > That's my flippant way of telling you you should fix the typos in the
> >> CSV.
>
> >> > See also: Thicker than Blood "Blood Bother". :)
>
> >> They're not typos in the CSV. See: card images. Those typos are on the
> >> cards themselves.
>
> > Yes, Salem.. what do you think is used as the source for the card texts?
>
> Whatever it is, it definitely lacks spell-check.
Okay, fess up. Who deinstalled spell checker from Cylon Scott?
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oh wait, unless you meant "That's my flippant way of telling you you
should fix the typos [on the printed cards] in [their texts on] the CSV."
in which case i didn't need to add anything. but that's not how i read
your message initially, sorry :)
--
salem
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to be honest, i assumed there was a master DB file somewhere. something
that is in a format easy for the layout people to work with. With txt
for each individual printing of a card for each set.
the CSV, with it's inclusions of errata and parenthesed text and
symbols, I assumed was an independent work. Ideally matching the DB
file, but not actually synchronised with it as that would wipe any
errata subsequently issued that has been uploaded to the CSV.
So when a card goes into the CSV for the first time, it gets text
straight off the master DB. But thereafter is maintained by hand.
That's how I imagine it goes, anyway.
So, while there may be typos in the CSV, they may or may not also be on
the cards themselves.
That there is what I though, and why i thought it valid to point out
that the typos are both in the CSV and on the cards themselves.
--
salem