[lsj] shock troops/ legion question

what happens if Ethan steals a master: discipline card that is a vampire, via Legion or Shock Troops? does the vampire just 'dissipate'? or can Ethan not do it, as the skill card doesn't count as a master: discipline card while in play as a vampire? assume same follows for Weakness, Absord the Mind, etc.? salem domain:canberra http://www.geocities.com/salem_christ.geo/vtes.htm

On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 14:29:05 +1000, salem wrote: > what happens if Ethan steals a master: discipline card that is a > vampire, via Legion or Shock Troops? > does the vampire just 'dissipate'? > or can Ethan not do it, as the skill card doesn't count as a master: > discipline card while in play as a vampire? > > assume same follows for Weakness, Absord the Mind, etc.? While we're at it can I check that he can't steal a Sanguine Instruction?

well, from the card texts: Legion: '...This vampire can put a Master: Discipline cards from your hand or ash heap in play to represent a fledgeling...' Ethan: '... Ethan may steal a Master Discipline card from another vampire...' the M:D cards represents a vampire, it's not 'on' a vampire so it can't be stolen 'from' a vampire (it's how I'd rule it, but I've been wrong from time to time). and SI is not a M:D card. conclusion: Ethan can't steal either the M:D from the fledgeling or a SI. -- Direct access to this group with http://web2news.com http://web2news.com/?rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

salem wrote: > what happens if Ethan steals a master: discipline card that is a > vampire, via Legion or Shock Troops? Legion: doesn't exist yet. Shock Troops: "do not count as Master: Discipline cards while in play." > does the vampire just 'dissipate'? > or can Ethan not do it, as the skill card doesn't count as a master: > discipline card while in play as a vampire? A vampire cannot use a "steal equipment" effect to steal a card that doesn't count as equipment while in play. A vampire cannot use a "steal Master: Discipline" effect to steal a card that doesn't count as a Master: Discipline while in play. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

In message <1qmf499187ifm.hea0b4fcq1xg$.d...@40tude.net>, Timlagor <Timlagor...@yahoo.co.uk> writes: [Ethan Locke] >While we're at it can I check that he can't steal a Sanguine Instruction? He can't. It's not a Master Discipline card. -- James Coupe PGP Key: 0x5D623D5D Lucky that my breasts are small and humble, EBD690ECD7A1FB457CA2 So you don't confuse them with mountains. 13D7E668C3695D623D5D

LSJ wrote: > Legion: doesn't exist yet. of course :-) and it would be a bit expensive to play if it did. [ quoted text not captured ]