The Dark and Jyhad.

I'm a MtG newbie. Two weeks, and I wiped my cash reserves into the game. But don't dismay, for I am off to the bank. I have not been keeping up with gaming magazines of any sort, so could somebody give me a brief summary of the Dark and Jyhad? Something like the makers, just what they are (stand alone games, expansion sets, ect), and approximate release dates? Thanks all. I have to say I am very very excited about Jyhad: "Methalusah's Finger", I now control your dragons. "Bloodlust", your vampyre goes into bloodlust and they destroy each other. Ah. The Joy of Anticipation. Perhaps sweeter than the end result itself. No, I am not obsecced yet. Obsecced is 90%+ of the time. I'm at most, 60%+ -Wisefool

..And Cthulu smiled when he saw that fqc4591@acf6.acf.nyu.edu had written: : I'm a MtG newbie. Two weeks, and I wiped my cash reserves into the game. But : don't dismay, for I am off to the bank. I have not been keeping up with : gaming magazines of any sort, so could somebody give me a brief summary of : the Dark and Jyhad? Something like the makers, just what they are (stand : alone games, expansion sets, ect), and approximate release dates? Thanks : all. Both Jyhad and The Dark are Produced by Wizards of the Coast. While The Dark is being billed explicitly as a supplement to Magic the Gathering, Jyhad is being promoted as a stand-alone game which is only semi- compatible with Magic. The Dark is due Real Soon Now (tm); word is the first shipment should be in the stores in a couple of weeks. Actually, one local store (I will name no names, to avoid embarrassing the guilty) has been claiming up and down that it will be in this week, but Everything I have seen elsewhere denies this. Kevin Kevin Barth barth@wam.umd.edu ************* GSS/MU d H- s++:++>+:+ g-(?) p? !au a- w+++ v+(-) The Geek Code C++ UU+ P- L- 3- E---- N+++ K+ W@(W--) M-- V-- Version 2.1 -po+ Y+ t+@ 5 j R G tv b+(++) D- B- ************* e+++ u(*) h! f- r- n-- y+

Doctor Demento (barth@wam.umd.edu) wrote: : Jyhad is being promoted as a stand-alone game which is only semi- : compatible with Magic. The Dark is due Real Soon Now (tm); word is the : first shipment should be in the stores in a couple of weeks. Actually, : one local store (I will name no names, to avoid embarrassing the guilty) : has been claiming up and down that it will be in this week, but Everything : I have seen elsewhere denies this. I don't think they plan on making Jyhad even remotely compatible to Magic, but I could be wrong... As for when the Dark is out, Tom said that it should be out next week, possibly this week. Keep your eyes open for them. -- Dennis Stalnaker and/or Ellen Kempf solomon@usa.net The best way to accelerate a Mac is -9.8 m/s/s (M)achine (A)lways (C)rashes (I)f (N)ot (T)he (O)perating (S)ystem (H)angs Windows: Another fine product from the creators of EdLin. The best way to accelerate a PC is to take Windows off of it.

<fqc4591@acf6.acf.nyu.edu> wrote: >I have not been keeping up with >gaming magazines of any sort, so could somebody give me a brief summary of >the Dark and Jyhad? Something like the makers, just what they are (stand >alone games, expansion sets, ect), and approximate release dates?... The Dark is an expansion for Magic the Gathering. It's a normal expansion, about the size of Arabian Nights or Antiquities. It should in late July - though that's looking less likely at this point ;) - or early August. Vampire: the Jyhad is the next game in the Deckmaster series, and is a completely separate game from Magic. The gist of the game is where "you and your opponents play ancient vampires who use political manipulation and force to dominate other vampires". It should be out for GenCon. Here's a repost of a blurb about Jyhad: News From The Snark: Jyhad March 29, 1994 Jyhad is a brand-new Deckmaster game produced by Wizards of the Coast and White Wolf, based on White Wolf's Vampire: The Masquerade. The following information is adapted from a recent release to distributors and retailers. Legal Stuff Magic: The Gathering and Deckmaster are trademarks of Wizards of the Coast, Inc. Jyhad is a trademark of White Wolf, Inc. and Wizards of the Coast, Inc., used under license. World of Darkness is a trademark of White Wolf, Inc., used under license. Game Design Highlights -A tradable, collectible card game in the vein of Magic: The Gathering -Trading Card Format -Limited and unlimited edition cards -Limited edition expansions -Atmosphere -Gothic punk, aka White Wolf's Vampire: The Masquerade -Vampire combat, control, and manipulation -Vampires belong to clans, like the rebellious Brujah or the insane Malkavians -Mechanics -One-on-one or multi-player -Fight for control of strategic locations like police stations and havens -Vie for vampire political titles like Prince of Chicago or Nospheratu Justicar -Arm your Vampires with sawed-off shotguns, Ninja motorcycles, or chain saws -Slain Vampires go to torpor, where they can be rescued or destroyed (diablerized) -Watch your blood supply! Blood is used to heal and to control other Vampires -Destroy other Vampires to gain new skills and age -Use Strike and Combat cards to beef up fighting Vampires -Use Action cards to conduct special missions like dawn assaults or arson -Notes -Jyhad is in the final stages of development. Some aspects of the game may change between now and publication -The information above represents the sum total of the game- specific information we are willing to release to the public at this time. Please do not press us for more details; if we let anything else slip we may be forced to diablerize you. Tom Wylie rec.games.deckmaster Network Representative for aahz@hal.com Wizards of the Coast, Inc.

..And Cthulu smiled when he saw that Tom Wylie had written: : Vampire: the Jyhad is the next game in the Deckmaster series, and is : a completely separate game from Magic. The gist of the game is where : "you and your opponents play ancient vampires who use political manipulation : and force to dominate other vampires". It should be out for GenCon. : Here's a repost of a blurb about Jyhad: much deleted As was pointed out in Tom's post, and in a number of email messages, my statement that Jyhad was supposed to be "semi-compatible" with Magic seems to be wrong. I should note, however, that my information was gotten from four seperate sources, including three store owners who carry WoTC's products, all of whom told me this seperately, and each of whom used the exact same phrase for Jyhad: "semi-compatible with Magic." I thought the phrase had been used in a press release from the consistency with which it was used. If it is not supposed to be compatible with Magic, it should perhaps be noted that some storekeepers believe the opposite. I'm glad to be corrected by those who know better. Kevin

Doctor Demento <barth@wam.umd.edu> wrote: >As was pointed out in Tom's post, and in a number of email messages, my >statement that Jyhad was supposed to be "semi-compatible" with Magic seems >to be wrong. I should note, however, that my information was gotten from four >seperate sources, including three store owners who carry WoTC's products, all >of whom told me this seperately, and each of whom used the exact same phrase >for Jyhad: "semi-compatible with Magic." I thought the phrase had been used >in a press release from the consistency with which it was used. Jyhad has never been advertised as being compatible with Magic. People may have assumed they'd be at least "semi-compatible" since they're both Deckmaster games, but they're really about as compatible as Monopoly and chess... you could combine them if you really wanted to, but it would take some work. Well, maybe not as much work as combining Monopoly and Chess ;) Tom Wylie rec.games.deckmaster Network Representative for aahz@hal.com Wizards of the Coast, Inc.