Lapse vs Guns

Last game situation arise: Vamp A bleed (Max Lowel) Vamp b (Nu) block, combat start Vamp A Disguise a .44 in his rear pocket Vamp B play lapse Vamp A use the .44 maveuver to go long range Nu's controler told me i can't cauz i do not have a strike and i need to use .44 strike if i use maneuver. Can i use the .44 maneuver under lapse? Can i use the .44 maneuver under Hidden Lurker? Can i use the .44 maneuver under Fast Reaction? -- TzimisceLord http://myvtes.free.fr http://sabbatinfrance.free.fr

"The Tzimisce Lord" <Tzimis...@NOSPAM.seclogd.org> wrote in message news:slrnaggokf.5n...@deimos.easynet.fr... > Last game situation arise: > > Vamp A bleed (Max Lowel) (just a word here : Max rulez. It's the smallest guy which can be efficient with weapons. Yes, Zoe still exists, but she's a malky... Everyone despises malky.) > Vamp b (Nu) block, combat start > > Vamp A Disguise a .44 in his rear pocket > Vamp B play lapse > > Vamp A use the .44 maveuver to go long range > Nu's controler told me i can't cauz i do not have a strike and i need to use .44 > strike if i use maneuver. Nu's controller is right =) > Can i use the .44 maneuver under lapse? no. You're commited to strike with the .44, that is, when you say i maneuver with .44 you are actually declaring your strike. It's about the same thing as saying "i play this thrown grate here just for the maneuver even if i can't strike with it". > Can i use the .44 maneuver under Hidden Lurker? nope. No strike, no .44 maneuver. > Can i use the .44 maneuver under Fast Reaction? nope. No strike, no .44 maneuver. > -- > TzimisceLord Tzimisce telling : No arms, no vitae chocolate... reyda > http://myvtes.free.fr > http://sabbatinfrance.free.fr

[ quoted text not captured ] Holy shit! I'm damned! btw for the story i played a flash with max (yes he really rulez!) and he survive to his encounter with the Pillar > >> -- >> TzimisceLord > > Tzimisce telling : No arms, no vitae chocolate... > > reyda > > >> http://myvtes.free.fr >> http://sabbatinfrance.free.fr > > [ quoted text not captured ]

Really? I would have probably allowed the maneuver, but not the strike... hmmm. What would happen if the Vamp A (Max :) )got additional strikes?!?! Any official input into this thread? Of course, Nu could just play a second lapse and set the range... Rod "reyda" <true_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<3d086e70$0$2987$79c1...@nan-newsreader-01.noos.net>... [ quoted text not captured ]

[ quoted text not captured ] Reminder: top-posting is not the proper way to post on this forum. Additional strikes are not linked to the maneuvers per the rules. Maneuvers are linked only to initial strikes per the rules. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:<3D08CD25...@white-wolf.com>... [ quoted text not captured ] Sorry, Won't happen again :) > Additional strikes are not linked to the maneuvers per the rules. > Maneuvers are linked only to initial strikes per the rules. Good thing to know... my Nu deck is even more robust under this notion. Thanks!