Duplicate cards in one action

Rules question: Are any of the following possible? 1) Acting minion plays Cloak, as do three other vamps (total +4 stealth). I have heard that this is possible, looking for a ruling. 2) During a political action, three separate reacting minions play Surprise Influence / Dread Gaze, for buttloads of votes. 3) During combat, a vampire maneuvers to range with Flash, the foe maneuvers back to short, and then the vamp maneuvers _again_ with Flash. I believe any of these are possible, since the only explicit ruling in the rulebook is that the same vampire may not play the same action modifier more than once in an action. (Could the same reacting minion play more than one reaction card, e.g. Enhanced Senses?) Fish Flowers.

> 1) Acting minion plays Cloak, as do three other vamps (total +4 stealth). > I have heard that this is possible, looking for a ruling. No ruling, just card text. > 2) During a political action, three separate reacting minions play > Surprise Influence / Dread Gaze, for buttloads of votes. So long as the 3 seperate minions who play them are untapped (or have a way to react as if untapped), this is possible and legal. > 3) During combat, a vampire maneuvers to range with Flash, the foe > maneuvers back to short, and then the vamp maneuvers _again_ with Flash. > I believe any of these are possible, It is. > since the only explicit ruling in the rulebook is that the same vampire may > not play the same action modifier more than once in an action. Correct. That is why the above is possible. However... > (Could the same reacting minion play more than one reaction card, e.g. > Enhanced Senses?) ...the restriction also extends to Reaction cards, so no, you cannot play the same reaction card using the same minion. Sorrow --- I don't want to be alone | I hurt, therefore I am anymore |-------------------------------- I don't want to be anyone | "What are you looking at...? anymore | you never seen anyone try to I don't need a reason to kill myself | commit suicide before?" - Anon ------------------------------------------------------------------------

Fish Flowers wrote: << 1) Acting minion plays Cloak, as do three other vamps (total +4 stealth). I have heard that this is possible, looking for a ruling. >> This is posible, but there is no ruling. The rule book disallows a single minion from playing the same action modifier more than once on a single action. The wording on superior Cloak gets around this. << 2) During a political action, three separate reacting minions play Surprise Influence / Dread Gaze, for buttloads of votes. >> Yes. The rule book says a particular minion cannot play the same reaction card more than once on a given action. As there are multiple (presumably untapped) minions to react, they may each play the same reaction card, if allowed by other rules. << 3) During combat, a vampire maneuvers to range with Flash, the foe maneuvers back to short, and then the vamp maneuvers _again_ with Flash. >> There is no prohibition against playing the same combat card more than oce per combat, within the other rules of the game (You cannot play a manuver to cancel your own manuver. You cannot play a press to cancel your own press. You cannot chose more than one strike. You cannot prevent damage that isn't there.) << I believe any of these are possible, since the only explicit ruling in the rulebook is that the same vampire may not play the same action modifier more than once in an action. (Could the same reacting minion play more than one reaction card, e.g. Enhanced Senses?) >> There is a similar rule in the rule book prohibiting playing the same reaction card on the same minion more than once per a given action. Peter D Bakija PD...@aol.com "Isn't it strange, G'Kar? When we first met, I had no power and all the choices I could ever want. Now I have all the power I could ever want, and no choice at all." -Londo

Sorrow wrote: > > > 1) Acting minion plays Cloak, as do three other vamps (total +4 stealth). > > I have heard that this is possible, looking for a ruling. > > No ruling, just card text. Right, it is possible - the restriction on action modifiers is per minion. > > 2) During a political action, three separate reacting minions play > > Surprise Influence / Dread Gaze, for buttloads of votes. > > So long as the 3 separate minions who play them are untapped (or > have a way to react as if untapped), this is possible and legal. Correct. > > 3) During combat, a vampire maneuvers to range with Flash, the foe > > maneuvers back to short, and then the vamp maneuvers _again_ with Flash. > > I believe any of these are possible, > > It is. Correct. > > since the only explicit ruling in the rulebook is that the same vampire may > > not play the same action modifier more than once in an action. > > Correct. That is why the above is possible. However... > > > (Could the same reacting minion play more than one reaction card, e.g. > > Enhanced Senses?) > > ...the restriction also extends to Reaction cards, so no, you cannot play > the same reaction card using the same minion. Correct. -- LSJ (vte...@wizards.com) V:TES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.wizards.com/VTES/rules.asp

In article <Pine.SOL.4.10.99092...@harper.uchicago.edu> , Fish Flowers <awfl...@midway.uchicago.edu> writes >Rules question: Are any of the following possible? > >1) Acting minion plays Cloak, as do three other vamps (total +4 stealth). >I have heard that this is possible, looking for a ruling. > Yes, it's possible. Each minion participating in an action can only play each action modifier once - so 4 minions participating via a Cloak can each play Cloak once. >2) During a political action, three separate reacting minions play >Surprise Influence / Dread Gaze, for buttloads of votes. > Yes, but only if someone else's vampires called the vote, of course, because you can only react when another Methuselah is acting. >3) During combat, a vampire maneuvers to range with Flash, the foe >maneuvers back to short, and then the vamp maneuvers _again_ with Flash. > Yes, that's also true. >I believe any of these are possible, since the only explicit ruling in the >rulebook is that the same vampire may not play the same action modifier >more than once in an action. (Could the same reacting minion play more >than one reaction card, e.g. Enhanced Senses?) No, that's also covered in the rulebook. Also, you may only benefit from one source of additional strikes each round of combat - so you can't play Blur twice in one round, or even use Blur and, say, Lightning Reflexes. (Quickness and Jacko are exceptions to this, by card text.) -- James Coupe (Prince of Mercia, England) Vampire: Elder Kindred Network http://madnessnetwork.hexagon.net http://www.obeah.demon.co.uk