Stacking combat cards...

Sorry if I'm asking so many questions, but the tournament is today, and I have to know it all !!! :-) Can you really play many times the same manoeuvers and "before strike" during the same action ? Even under NRA ? -- Yours, Orpheus, Prince of Marseille http://no.exit.free.fr (onlive novel) http://cypheranima.free.fr (goth band) news://news.zoo-logique.org/VTES-francophone audio...@yahoogroups.com

>Sorry if I'm asking so many questions, but the tournament is today, and I >have to know it all !!! :-) > >Can you really play many times the same manoeuvers and "before strike" >during the same action ? Even under NRA ? In general, yes. Just remember: #1.) Card text may prevent multiple copies from being played (you can only play one IG each round or one Carrion Crows each combat). #2.) You can't cancel your own manuevers or presses. (But if they say, keep manuevering to long, you can keep manuevering to close with multiple copies of Flash). #3.) And then other basic stuff like being only able to gain additional strikes from one source, etc. #4.) NRA has nothing to do with it. NRA only applies to taking actions. (Alternatively, there are restrictions on action modifiers, reactions, and stealth/intercept). But overall, yes, the following is possible: Vampire A and B get into combat: Vampire A plays 7 Traps. Vampire B plays 3 Apparitions. Vampire A manuevers to long with Flash. Vampire B manuevers to close with Gleam of the Red Eyes. Vampire A manuevers to long with Flash. Vampire B manuevers to close with Gleam Vampire A manuevers to long with Flash. Vampire B manuevers to close with Gleam Vampire A manuevers to long with Flash. Vampire B manuevers to close with Gleam Vampire A manuevers to long with Flash. Vampire B manuevers to close with Gleam Vampire A plays a Disguised Weapon to equip with a Sengir Dagger Vampire A plays a Disguised Weapon to equip with a Ivory Bow Vampire A plays a Disguised Weapon to equip with a Assault Rifle Vampire A plays a Disguised Weapon to equip with a Meat Hook Vampire A strikes with Mummify (who knows why!) Vampire B plays The Jones to cancel it Vampire A strikes with another Mummify Methusaleh B DI's the Mummify Vampire A strikes with yet another Mummify Vampire B is actually Watenda, who uses his special to cancel the Mummify strike Damnit, Vamp A is out of Mummifies and just does whatever. Etc, etc, etc. Halcyan 2

In message <a5aj4g$t5n$1...@wanadoo.fr>, Orpheus <orph...@wanadoo.fr> writes: >Can you really play many times the same manoeuvers and "before strike" >during the same action ? Yes, allowing for card text. And, with manuevers, someone else needs to cancel yours, of course. > Even under NRA ? NRA is no repeat actions. You also can't repeat action modifiers or reactions with the same minion per action (the rules). Combat cards are neither. -- James Coupe but I lust after the raw pow0r of c. PGP 0x5D623D5D together with the humping great EBD690ECD7A1FB457CA2 elephant arse of gnome. 13D7E668C3695D623D5D - Vashti

-- > NRA is no repeat actions. You also can't repeat action modifiers or > reactions with the same minion per action (the rules). > > Combat cards are neither. Ok. But then another question : can you first TC a bleed, and then (like if the guy adds more) decide you prefer to deflect ? If so, can you do it with the wame minion ? With another one ? Yours, Orpheus

In message <a5d0b6$d2s$1...@wanadoo.fr>, Orpheus <orph...@wanadoo.fr> writes: >Ok. But then another question : can you first TC a bleed, and then (like if >the guy adds more) decide you prefer to deflect ? Sure. It's two separate reaction cards. Up until the point you actually take the bleed, you can deflect it at any point you have an opportunity to play cards. Similarly Telepathic Counter (or similar bleed reductions). >If so, can you do it with >the wame minion ? With another one ? You can do both with the same one. They're two separate reaction cards. (Though they have to be untapped or woken or whatever.) If there were a hypothetical reaction card which had bleed reduction at inferior and bleed bounce at superior, you wouldn't be able to play it with the same minion - since that would be playing the same action modifier or reaction more than once during an action with the same minion. [ quoted text not captured ]

That reminds me. If my opponent plays immortal grapple, I can still play mine for the press right? And to cycle the card. Wisefool Mercuriel

Matt wrote: > > That reminds me. If my opponent plays immortal grapple, I can still > play mine for the press right? And to cycle the card. Yes. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/