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(LSJ) Brutal Influence's terms

2 messages from 2 participants · 16 August 2010
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floppyzedolfin

Hello, Suppose Vampire A plays Brutal Influence at inferior. A has 3 Oruns. * A has to declare how many Oruns he taps as part of the terms, right? That is - when someone gets the opportunity to cancel the card (with Direct Intervention, for instance), X has been set. [[Stealth Ritus has the same wording, but gets played after the DI window]] * If answer to first question is "Yes", are the Oruns tapped if the action is canceled as announced (Direct Intervention) ? * Do the Oruns remain tapped if the action is canceled before resolution with Tangle Atropo's Hand? * Do the Oruns remain tapped if the action is canceled after resolution with Red Herring / Krassimir's ability / .. ? Thanks ~ ~ Blessed Audience {added for similar cardtext reasons} Cardtype: Action Cost: X blood Discipline: Melpominee/Auspex [aus] (D) Tap X-1 allies or younger vampires controlled by your predator or prey. [mel] As [aus] above, at +1 stealth. [MEL] As [mel] above, and this vampire can increase his or her capacity for purposes of selecting the targets of this effect. The cost of this action is increased by one blood for each point of capacity gained (chosen when the action is announced). Brutal Influence Cardtype: Action Cost: 1 blood Discipline: Potence [pot] (D) Bleed at +1 bleed. When the action is announced, this vampire may tap X Orun on him or her to get an additional +X bleed. [POT] +1 stealth action. Tap X Orun on this vampire to move X blood from the bank to a younger Laibon in your uncontrolled region. Direct Intervention Cardtype: Master Cost: 1 pool Master: out-of-turn. Cancel a minion card as it is played. No cost is paid. (If it was an action card, the acting minion doesn't tap. If it was a strike card, the minion chooses another strike.) Krassimir Cardtype: Vampire Clan: True Brujah Group: 2 Capacity: 7 Discipline: dom nec pre POT TEM Independent: Once each turn, when blocked, Krassimir can untap and cancel the current action and combat (do not tap the blocking minion). Krassimir cannot use cards that require Celerity [cel]. Scarce. Red Herring Cardtype: Action Modifier Cost: 1 blood Discipline: Chimerstry [chi] Only usable when this acting vampire is blocked. Untap the acting vampire, do not tap the blocking minion, and cancel the current action and combat. Take the card played to perform the action (if any) back into your hand. Your vampires cannot attempt the same action again this turn. Discard down to your hand size. [CHI] As above, but tap the blocking minion. Stealth Ritus Cardtype: Action Modifier Cost: 1 blood Requires a ready Sabbat vampire. Only usable when the action is announced. Choose another ready Sabbat vampire you control. The chosen vampire burns 1 blood, or this card has no effect. This action gets +1 stealth, even if stealth is not yet needed. Tangle Atropos' Hand Cardtype: Action Modifier Cost: 1 blood Discipline: Temporis/Potence Only usable when a minion is attempting to block. [pot] Cancel the action and untap the acting minion. (The blocking minion is not tapped.) [tem] As [pot] above, and take the action card, if any, back into your hand (discard afterward). [TEM] As [tem] above, and this vampire gets +1 stealth on his or her next action this turn.

LSJ

On Aug 16, 4:38 am, floppyzedolfin <floppyzedol...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > Suppose Vampire A plays Brutal Influence at inferior. > A has 3 Oruns. > > * A has to declare how many Oruns he taps as part of the terms, right? Card text. > That is - when someone gets the opportunity to cancel the card (with > Direct Intervention, for instance), X has been set. > [[Stealth Ritus has the same wording, but gets played after the DI > window]] > > * If answer to first question is "Yes", are the Oruns tapped if the > action is canceled as announced (Direct Intervention) ? You mean "if the card is canceled as played (DI)." No. > * Do the Oruns remain tapped if the action is canceled before > resolution with Tangle Atropo's Hand? ? They were tapped when announced. Before block attempts. Card text. > * Do the Oruns remain tapped if the action is canceled after > resolution with Red Herring / Krassimir's ability / .. ? What would untap them? Similarly, any Conditioning played before Red Herring would not be returned to the hand. [ quoted text not captured ]