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JYHAD Question: Official Rulings Please

7 messages from 5 participants · 07 September 1994 – 14 September 1994 · rec.games.deckmaster
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LARRY T. TSAO

Hi, We have been playing Jyhad for the last 2 weeks or so, and have come up with some puzzling situations that aren't explained in the rules. We hope to get official rulings on them... 1) Can an ally acquire retainers? i.e. Renegade Garou with Wolf Compainion 2) Do you tap your vampire that is being directed attacked by someone else's minion? 3) Can a vampire hold more than one title? 4) When you play Majesty as your strike card, can your opponent press for additional combat? What if he plays Trap? 5) Please clarify what Anneke can do as her ability. Thanks, Larry ST238@JETSON.UH.EDU

Tom Wylie

LARRY T. TSAO <st238@rosie.uh.edu> wrote: >1) Can an ally acquire retainers? i.e. Renegade Garou with Wolf Compainion No. >2) Do you tap your vampire that is being directed attacked by someone else's > minion? No. Vampires only tap to act and if they block succesfully; simply entering combat doesn't cause it to tap. >3) Can a vampire hold more than one title? No. Whichever title a vampire has most recently earned is the only one it has. >4) When you play Majesty as your strike card, can your opponent press for > additional combat? What if he plays Trap? "ends combat" ends combat right then and there; it beats absolutely everything else out there. If the acting minion declares "combat ends" as the strike, then combat doesn't even progress long enough for the blocking minion to declare a strike. >5) Please clarify what Anneke can do as her ability. If your action is directed, then only vampires controlled by the affected Methuselah can block. If your action is non-directed, then first your prey gets a chance to block, then if she declines or fails, your predator gets a chance to block. What Anneke can do is wait until everyone has declined to block, or tried and failed, and then herself attempt to block. So basically, she can block any action taken by a vampire (but not by an ally!), but must first give everyone else a chance to block. Tom Wylie rec.games.deckmaster Network Representative for aahz@hal.com Wizards of the Coast, Inc.

Paul Strack

>LARRY T. TSAO <st238@rosie.uh.edu> wrote: >>1) Can an ally acquire retainers? i.e. Renegade Garou with Wolf Compainion > >No. Wait a minute. I see no reason why an ally couldn't recruit a retainer that requires no blood, disciplines or clan affiliation, such as Tasha Morgan or whats-her-name, the one that drives a limo and gives you one maneuver per combat. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Paul Strack | THIS SPACE pfstrack@email.unc.edu | FOR RENT _______________________|_____________________________________________

Tom Wylie

Paul Strack <pfstrack@email.unc.edu> wrote: >>>1) Can an ally acquire retainers?... >>No. >Wait a minute. I see no reason why an ally couldn't recruit a retainer >that requires no blood, disciplines or clan affiliation, such as Tasha >Morgan or whats-her-name, the one that drives a limo and gives you one >maneuver per combat. Before answering that question, I read the "employ retainer" section up through "The employ retainer action brings a retainer into play *for a vampire*." (emphasis mine) Hence my answer. However, I've since noticed/remembered that the rest of the paragraph talks about "minions" getting retainers, so I'm not sure whether the action is only usable by vampires or not. This is on the list... Tom Wylie rec.games.deckmaster Network Representative for aahz@hal.com Wizards of the Coast, Inc.

Paul Strack

I wrote: >>Wait a minute. I see no reason why an ally couldn't recruit a retainer >>that requires no blood, disciplines or clan affiliation, such as Tasha >>Morgan or whats-her-name, the one that drives a limo and gives you one >>maneuver per combat. In article <355fcj$h6@perv.hal.COM>, Tom Wylie <aahz@hal.COM> wrote: >Before answering that question, I read the "employ retainer" section up >through "The employ retainer action brings a retainer into play *for a >vampire*." (emphasis mine) Hence my answer. However, I've since >noticed/remembered that the rest of the paragraph talks about "minions" >getting retainers, so I'm not sure whether the action is only usable >by vampires or not. This is on the list... Actually, I found my Jackie Therman card, and it specifies All Kindred as a condition, and I bet Tasha Morgan does as well. So, it may be a moot question, and I withdraw my suggestion (until such time as you print a retainer or ally card a minion would be capable of recruiting). -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Paul Strack | THIS SPACE pfstrack@email.unc.edu | FOR RENT _______________________|_____________________________________________

Clinton Richard Wolf

In article <356r6q$97k@bigblue.oit.unc.edu>, Paul Strack <pfstrack@email.unc.edu> wrote: >I wrote: > >Actually, I found my Jackie Therman card, and it specifies All Kindred as >a condition, and I bet Tasha Morgan does as well. So, it may be a moot >question, and I withdraw my suggestion (until such time as you print a >retainer or ally card a minion would be capable of recruiting). > One version of Tasha specifies 'All Kindred', the other doesn't. But I'd bascially play the omission as a typo, since all the others do specify All Kindred... BUT - Ghoul Retainer (and I think, Ghoul Escort, too) do /not/ have the All Kindred phrase, require no disciplines, and the blood is paid either from the Methuselah's pool or in the case of Ghoul Escort, isn't paid at all. In fact, the wording on Ghoul Retainer goes further in saying 'may use a weapon of the minions' that that minion is not currently using...' - minion, not vampire... and with no other limiters, it sure looks like any minion should be able to recruit him, so the question surely isn't moot. The hypothetical card you mention above has been in existence since the beginning...

Eric Amick

Paul Strack (pfstrack@email.unc.edu) wrote: >Wait a minute. I see no reason why an ally couldn't recruit a retainer >that requires no blood, disciplines or clan affiliation, such as Tasha >Morgan or whats-her-name, the one that drives a limo and gives you one >maneuver per combat. The rules include the line: "Some human retainers may serve vampires' allies." I think you're right. -- Eric Amick eamick@clark.net Columbia, MD Public key available via finger