Last Stand
Unique Master, 6 (!) pool:
Put this card in play. When any other Methuselah is ousted, the
current turn ends, and this card is burned. The predator of the ousted
Methuselah (if more than one was ousted, go clockwise from the left of
the Methuselah whose turn just ended) takes the next turn.
This is just to ask what this card is supposed to do?
Costing 6 pool I'd imagine something worth the effort.
Multiple reading still left me under the impression it's
crap. Who'd spend 6 pool to give a meth (if you're lucky
it's you) an extra turn?
Did I miss something?
I dont think I'd include it in a deck if it would cost
half the pool.
Cheers, Alf
masika <tree.beard.D...@gmx.de> wrote:
> Last Stand
> Unique Master, 6 (!) pool:
> Put this card in play. When any other Methuselah is ousted, the
> current turn ends, and this card is burned. The predator of the ousted
> Methuselah (if more than one was ousted, go clockwise from the left of
> the Methuselah whose turn just ended) takes the next turn.> This is just to ask what this card is supposed to do?> Costing 6 pool I'd imagine something worth the effort.
> Multiple reading still left me under the impression it's
> crap. Who'd spend 6 pool to give a meth (if you're lucky
> it's you) an extra turn?
So you can tap out and take down your prey.. and then have a full turn
to go at your new prey. It makes Stealth Bleed even more dangerous, as
if it needed it... Or you can use that extra turn to "become a wall", and
be all untapped and defensive for your predator to come at you.
The cost of 6 is just a pre-emptive "you won't gain 6 from your next
oust", sort of. You really shouldn't play this card except on the Master
Phase of the turn that you think you'll oust your prey.
Here's the concept...
I'm could take out my prey if I tapped out... But would leave myself
vunerable, or I could take out my grand prey if I had another turn as
well... If you had 7+ pool...
Untap, master phase... Last Stand!!!! 1+ pool
Tap all out and take out my prey, and BAM... 6 pool and my turn
again... Plus the edge pool... =D now you can defend or go after your
new prey... =D
I think any stealth bleed deck would like this card... =D
It's a crajee card, I like it...
tree.beard.D...@gmx.de (masika) wrote in message news:<a6002730.03111...@posting.google.com>...
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I think that it is mst insane fr dramatic upheava decks,
guess which keys dn't wrk n this keybard,
David
"Kulaid" <Kula...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> This is just to ask what this card is supposed to do?
>
> Costing 6 pool I'd imagine something worth the effort.
> Multiple reading still left me under the impression it's
> crap. Who'd spend 6 pool to give a meth (if you're lucky
> it's you) an extra turn?
>
> Did I miss something?
>
> I dont think I'd include it in a deck if it would cost
> half the pool.
>
> Cheers, Alf
Great card for decks with 8+ Parity Sifts :)
-Guzmo
Jozxyqk <jfeu...@eecs.tufts.edu> wrote in message news:<1PLub.49455$Dw6.254210@attbi_s02>...
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Yeah that's my only problem with this card.. i need to play palla
grande at that turn :)
-Bram Vink
On 19 Nov 2003 11:03:49 -0800, gu...@postmaster.co.uk (Guzmo)
scrawled:
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Oh. Oh my. Oh my yes....._nice_.
salem
domain:canberra http://www.geocities.com/salem_christ.geo/vtes.htm
Last Stand can also be potentially very useful in a timed tournament
environment; getting to take two turns in a row can allow a game win,
when other people were counting on getting an extra turn.
I highly praise this card because it opens up a new gameplay mechanic
that never existed before in this game; it's high risk, high reward.
Also note that when someone gets ousted, the current turn ends
immediately (so no finishing your minion phase, influence, or
discard.) I imagine interesting decisions when that card is in play,
I have 3 minions, and my prey is all tapped out with 1 pool. Do I
hunt twice, and then bleed? Or do I bleed first, and then end up
wasting the actions of the other two minions? This card generates
interesting gameplay, and thus I praise it.
It's really hard for me to know if it's balanced; it actually seems a
little too expensive. Or maybe just that the minion phase should end
immediately, but still allow influence and/or discard. *shrug* I
didn't playtest it so I don't know - I'll put my faith in the
playtesters, and try this out when I get the chance.
Bravo to the designer,
Ira
> Also note that when someone gets ousted, the current turn ends
> immediately (so no finishing your minion phase, influence, or
> discard.)
when the hell did this happen?
-Prince of Harrisburg
Ira wrote:
>
> Also note that when someone gets ousted, the current turn ends
> immediately (so no finishing your minion phase, influence, or
> discard.)
wha? (caught very much off guard with this one...)
--
chris shorb
<www.vtesinla.org> (A V:TES site)
prince of torrance, california
***
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Into the eyes of the night - watching me go
Green is the cat's eye that glows - in this temple
Enter the risen Osiris - risen again
- Dickinson
Chris Shorb expounded:
>
>
> Ira wrote:
>
> >
> > Also note that when someone gets ousted, the current turn ends
> > immediately (so no finishing your minion phase, influence, or
> > discard.)
>
> wha? (caught very much off guard with this one...)
We're talking about a new card here that has this effect. You get
another turn out of it. (go read the beginning of the thread)
Chris Shorb wrote:
> Ira wrote:>>Also note that when someone gets ousted, the current turn ends
>>immediately (so no finishing your minion phase, influence, or
>>discard.)>
> wha? (caught very much off guard with this one...)
Card text on Last Stand.
It doesn't apply to ousting in general when Last Stand is not in play.
--
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id77...@yahoo.com (isaphrael) wrote in message news:<5494c8c1.03111...@posting.google.com>...
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When someone put the card Last Stand into play (as that is text on the
card Last Stand).
-Peter
Chris Shorb <chr...@vtesinla.org> wrote in message news:<3FBC706E...@vtesinla.org>...
> Ira wrote:
>
> >
> > Also note that when someone gets ousted, the current turn ends
> > immediately (so no finishing your minion phase, influence, or
> > discard.)
>
> wha? (caught very much off guard with this one...)
Ira means 'when someone gets ousted, and Last Stand is in play, the
current turn ends immediately' - read the Last Stand card text:
"Put this card in play. When any other Methuselah is ousted, the
current turn ends, and this card is burned. The predator of the ousted
Methuselah (if more than one was ousted, go clockwise from the left of
the Methuselah whose turn just ended) takes the next turn."
When someone gets ousted, that turn ends immediately.
> chris shorb
> <www.vtesinla.org> (A V:TES site)
> prince of torrance, california
-John Flournoy
id77...@yahoo.com (isaphrael) wrote in message news:<5494c8c1.03111...@posting.google.com>...
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Ira's talking about 'when Last Stand is in play', since the card text
on Last Stand ends the turn as soon as a player is ousted.
-John Flournoy