rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Design question: Hawg

7 messages from 5 participants · 02 March 1995 – 12 March 1995
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Alan Kwan

This is a design question. This is not a rules question (I know the ruling for this one), nor a game balance argument (I don't think the way the card was printed has much impact on game balance at all). Please do not attempt to answer/flame me as such. The Hawg says "One Press each /turn/". This makes the vehicle function differently than most other equipment, such as IR Goggles for "one manuever per /combat/". Does anybody has any game balance/ realism/whatever argument for why it has to be one press each /turn/, instead of one press each /combat/? As to game balance, I can't see any significant difference. Can anybody illustrate a situation where giving a Hawg one press each combat would be overwhelmingly unbalancing, even worse than WwEF, Fame, or Majesty? Why is a press so much worse than a .44, a Sports Bike, or an Ivory Bow? ----------------------- "Live Life with Heart." Alan Kwan kw...@cs.cornell.edu -- "Live Life with Heart." Alan Kwan kw...@cs.cornell.edu

James R. McClure Jr.

kw...@cs.cornell.edu (Alan Kwan) wrote: > The Hawg says "One Press each /turn/". This makes the > vehicle function differently than most other > equipment, such as IR Goggles for "one manuever > per /combat/". Does anybody has any game balance/ > realism/whatever argument for why it has to be > one press each /turn/, instead of one press each > /combat/? Peace Alan, I always thought it was one press each combat. No, I can see no reason why that would be unbalancing. Nil carborundum illigitimi, James R. McClure Jr. The OS/2 Apostle <insert disclaimer here>

Thomas R Wylie

James R. McClure Jr. <jrmc...@ulkyvm.louisville.edu> wrote: >I always thought it was one press each combat. No, I can see no reason >why that would be unbalancing. One press per combat probaby wouldn't be all that imbalancing, but the card quite clearly says "1 press each turn", not "1 press each combat". Tom Wylie rec.games.trading-cards.* Network Representative for aa...@cats.ucsc.edu Wizards of the Coast, Inc.

James R. McClure Jr.

aa...@cats.ucsc.edu (Thomas R Wylie) wrote: > > > James R. McClure Jr. <jrmc...@ulkyvm.louisville.edu> wrote: > >I always thought it was one press each combat. No, I can see no reason > >why that would be unbalancing. > > One press per combat probaby wouldn't be all that imbalancing, but the > card quite clearly says "1 press each turn", not "1 press each combat". Peace Thomas, Are you saying that Hawg gives you: 1) a press each combat round, 2) a press each combat,3) or a press each player turn? While I have your attention, can you clarify something for me? Game of Malkav & Malkavian Prank: can a player 'wager' more pool than they currently possess? For example: I play Malk Prank. You have only two pool. Can you choose three of four pool as your 'wager?' My group has been playing with the answer as 'no' and I wanted to find out something official. Thanks for your time. [ quoted text not captured ]

Shane Hamish William Travis

James R. McClure Jr. (jrmc...@ulkyvm.louisville.edu) wrote: : Peace Thomas, : Are you saying that Hawg gives you: 1) a press each combat round, 2) a press : each combat,3) or a press each player turn? This has been officially answered before - #3 is correct. : While I have your attention, : can you clarify something for me? Game of Malkav & Malkavian Prank: can a : player 'wager' more pool than they currently possess? For example: I play : Malk Prank. You have only two pool. Can you choose three of four pool as : your 'wager?' Also been answeered before: you may wager whatever you desire, up to the limits set by the card. If you wager more than you currently have in your pool and lose, then you are immediately ousted. Shane Travis | There are two kinds of men who never amount to sht...@duke.usask.ca | very much: those who cannot do what they are told, Saskatoon, Saskatchewan | and those who can do nothing else. | -- Cyrus H.K. Curtis

Bob Ellison

> > One press per combat probaby wouldn't be all that imbalancing, but the > > card quite clearly says "1 press each turn", not "1 press each combat". > Are you saying that Hawg gives you: 1) a press each combat round, 2) a press > each combat,3) or a press each player turn? 3 - a press each player turn. > While I have your attention, > can you clarify something for me? Game of Malkav & Malkavian Prank: can a > player 'wager' more pool than they currently possess? For example: I play > Malk Prank. You have only two pool. Can you choose three of four pool as > your 'wager?' My group has been playing with the answer as 'no' and I wanted > to find out something official. Thanks for your time. Yes, you can wager more pool than you possess. At worst, this can oust you. papillo the pickled

Thomas R Wylie

Hawg says that the minion gets one press per turn, so it only gets one press per turn (from the Hawg), regardless of how many combats and rounds of combats it gets involved in. When playing Game of Malkvan, you can choose a number that exceeds the blood in your pool, since you are not removing blood from your pool in order to gamble. The same goes for Malkavian Prank. [ quoted text not captured ]