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Eldritch Glimmer Q

9 messages from 7 participants · 23 October 2000
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guntherbl

Eldritch Glimmer card says: "Strike: 2R damage, and this vampire can burn X blood to get +X damage. Not usable first round. Usable at long range." (At superior it's 4R damage, but the remaining text is the same). Shouldn't it say "Usable ONLY at long range", as it is already clear that it can be used at long by the "R" after the quantity of damage done? How is this strike used, then? Only at long or both at long and close range? Thank you. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

X_Ze...@email.msn.com

In article <8t1ra3$8h8$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, guntherbl <gunt...@my-deja.com> wrote: > Eldritch Glimmer card says: "Strike: 2R damage, and this vampire can burn > X blood to get +X damage. Not usable first round. Usable at long range." > (At superior it's 4R damage, but the remaining text is the same). > Shouldn't it say "Usable ONLY at long range", as it is already clear that > it can be used at long by the "R" after the quantity of damage done? > How is this strike used, then? Only at long or both at long and close > range? > Thank you. > Any ranged strike may be used at close range unless card text says other wise. Comments Welcome, Norman S. Brown Jr. XZealot Archon of the Swamp [ quoted text not captured ]

Sorrow

> > Eldritch Glimmer card says: "Strike: 2R damage, and this vampire can > > burn X blood to get +X damage. Not usable first round. Usable at long > > range." > > (At superior it's 4R damage, but the remaining text is the same). > > Shouldn't it say "Usable ONLY at long range", as it is already clear > > that it can be used at long by the "R" after the quantity of damage done? > > How is this strike used, then? Only at long or both at long and close > > range? > Any ranged strike may be used at close range unless card text says other > wise. You missed the point, Norm. The card text says "Usable at long range" but it also says "2R". Because the damage is ranged (2R), the phrase "Usable at long range" is redundant and is a little confusing for him. The main question remains - should the card have instead said "ONLY usable at long range"? Sorrow --- "Are they dead?" - Pugsly "Does it matter?" - Wednesday

X_Ze...@email.msn.com

In article <Kh%I5.8735$mC.5...@monger.newsread.com>, [ quoted text not captured ] The Usable at Long range is not redundant. It was put there to avoid confusion on whether the +x damage was ranged damage. Comments Welcome [ quoted text not captured ]

LSJ

guntherbl wrote: > > Eldritch Glimmer card says: "Strike: 2R damage, and this vampire can burn > X blood to get +X damage. Not usable first round. Usable at long range." > (At superior it's 4R damage, but the remaining text is the same). > Shouldn't it say "Usable ONLY at long range", as it is already clear that > it can be used at long by the "R" after the quantity of damage done? No. The "usable at long range" was probably put in to help fend off questions about the +X being ranged or not, even though, as you note, it is redundant with the 'R' nature of the base damage. > How is this strike used, then? Only at long or both at long and close > range? At either long or close range. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

cantila

If I use EG with Ankara Citadel on my vamp. is the cost reduced for the extra blood burnt to do the extra dmg too? [ quoted text not captured ]

Gomi no Sensei

In article <8t22q5$fjt$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, cantila <rogc...@student.luth.se> wrote: >If I use EG with Ankara Citadel on my vamp. is the cost reduced for the >extra blood burnt to do the extra dmg too? No. Burning blood for additional damage is an effect of Eldritch Glimmer's resolution, not a cost (contrast Hidden Strength, where the X blood burnt is a cost, and therefore affected by Ankara Citadel). gomi -- you say they taught you how to read and write yeah, they taught you how to count i say they taught you how to buy and sell your own body by the pound

Derek Ray

On Mon, 23 Oct 2000 19:16:29 GMT, cantila <rogc...@student.luth.se> wrote: >If I use EG with Ankara Citadel on my vamp. is the cost reduced for the >extra blood burnt to do the extra dmg too? card text: Eldritch Glimmer, Thaumaturgy, Combat, 1 blood Strike: 2R damage, and this vampire can burn X blood to get +X damage. Not usable first round. Usable at long range. (S) Strike: 4R damage, and this vampire can burn X blood to get +X damage. Not usable first round. Usable at long range. So no, the blood spent is not reduced, as Ankara Citadel only reduces the -cost- of the card, which is 1 blood. The additional +X damage is a "burn blood" function of the card itself, not the cost. -- Derek "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge." - C. Darwin, 1871

LSJ

cantila wrote: > > If I use EG with Ankara Citadel on my vamp. is the cost reduced for the > extra blood burnt to do the extra dmg too? Ankara Citadel only reduces the blood cost of the card. The blood cost of EG is 1 blood. The X blood that you can burn as part of the effect is not the cost of the card. [ quoted text not captured ]