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Some questions about political cards (LSJ)

3 messages from 3 participants · 13 June 2000
original thread on Google Groups

Khaleph Alendis

About Cryptic Rider The situation is : I have 3 vampires. Vampire A, vampire B and vampire C. Vampire A call a vote. It’s not blocked so we go to the referendum. The vote pass and the vampire A play Cryptic Rider. Vampire B call a vote. It’s not blocked so the vote pass automatically and the vampire B play Cryptic Rider. Vampire C call a vote. It’s not blocked so the vote pass automatically. Is that situation ok ? About Treachery The situation is : A vampire of Meth A call a political action that is not blocked. Befor voting occurs, Meth B have one vampire that play Treachery and C have 2 vampire that play Treachery. (All play it with inferior presence) Is that situation ok ? If the vote pass, the Meth A lose 3 poll ? About Scorn of Adonis I play Scorn of Adonis and a reacting vampire play Kindred Coercion to change the vote of one of my vampire from Yes to No. I lose 1 poll ? Thank's for your answers, Khaleph Alendis, High Priest of Maizerets VEKN Setite Prince of Beauport http://cdd.citeweb.net/khaleph/ Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

Hashi Lebwohl

In article <8i5lmr$422$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, Khaleph Alendis <kha...@hotmail.com> wrote: > About Cryptic Rider For clarity, cardtext on CR is: Requires a ready vampire. Only usable after a successful <referendum>. The next <referendum> you successfully call this turn passes automatically. > The situation is : > Vampire A call a vote. It’s not blocked so we go to the referendum. > The vote pass and the vampire A play Cryptic Rider. > Vampire B call a vote. It’s not blocked so the vote pass > automatically > and the vampire B play Cryptic Rider. > Vampire C call a vote. It’s not blocked so the vote pass > automatically. > Is that situation ok ? Yup. Cryptic Riders can be consecutively played within the same turn (well, you could play a CR with your last vampire, but it'd be a bit silly). > About Treachery Cardtext is: Reaction - Presence Only usable during a <referendum> before voting occurs. If the <referendum> passes, the controller of the vampire calling the <referendum> burns 1 pool. SUP: As above, but any other Methuselahs who vote in favor of the <referendum> burn 1 pool. > The situation is : > A vampire of Meth A call a political action that is not blocked. > Before voting occurs, Meth B have one vampire that play Treachery and > C have 2 vampire that play Treachery. (All play it with inferior > presence) > Is that situation ok ? > If the vote pass, the Meth A lose 3 poll ? Yep. To draw parallels to both Army of Rats and Anarch Revolt: Army of Rats +1 stealth action. Put this card in play. During your untap phase, your prey burns 1 pool. You may only burn 1 pool each turn with Army of Rats cards. As a (D) action, any minion can burn an Army of Rats. Anarch Revolt Master. Put this card in play. Each Methuselah burns 1 pool during his or her untap phase. Any vampire can burn this card with a successful <referendum>; calling this <referendum> is a +1 stealth <political> action. Army of Rats requires explicit cardtext to say multiple copies aren't cumulative. Anarch Revolt, lacking such text, is cumulative. Since Treachery lacks such limiting cardtext, they are also cumulative. The same thing would happen with Bribes if it were somehow possible to play multiple Bribes on the same political action. More apropos, perhaps, is Political Backlash: Only usable when a <referendum> fails. The controller of the vampire calling the failed <referendum> burns 2 pool. Clearly cumulative -- you can play one per untapped vampire you control, burning 2 pool each time. > About Scorn of Adonis > I play Scorn of Adonis and a reacting vampire play Kindred Coercion to > change the vote of one of my vampire from Yes to No. > I lose 1 poll ? Yep. Sucks to be you. gomi [ quoted text not captured ]

LSJ

Khaleph Alendis wrote: > I have 3 vampires. Vampire A, vampire B and vampire C. > > Vampire A call a vote. It?s not blocked so we go to the referendum. > The vote pass and the vampire A play Cryptic Rider. > Vampire B call a vote. It?s not blocked so the vote pass automatically > and the vampire B play Cryptic Rider. > Vampire C call a vote. It?s not blocked so the vote pass automatically. > > Is that situation ok ? Yes. > About Treachery > > The situation is : > > A vampire of Meth A call a political action that is not blocked. > > Befor voting occurs, Meth B have one vampire that play Treachery and C > have 2 vampire that play Treachery. (All play it with inferior > presence) > > Is that situation ok ? Yes, if both minions are untapped/woken. Meth B could even have two of her untapped minions play the two Treacheries. > If the vote pass, the Meth A lose 3 poll ? Two pool - one from each. > About Scorn of Adonis > > I play Scorn of Adonis and a reacting vampire play Kindred Coercion to > change the vote of one of my vampire from Yes to No. > > I lose 1 poll ? You lose 1 pool for voting against, yes. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/