Gambit Accepted [lsj]

Relevant card text: Gambit Accepted [Anarchs:R] Cardtype: Master Master. Only usable if you have at least 1 victory point. Lose 1 victory point and put this card in play. During your untap phase, move 1 pool from your prey's pool to your pool. If you are ousted, your predator gains an additional victory point. At the end of the game, if you have not been ousted, you gain an additional victory point. I assume if a tournament game times out, and you are still alive, you gain 1.5 VP's? Just to clarify for myself. Thanks, chris -- chris shorb <www.vtesinla.org> (A V:TES site) prince of torrance, california *** Into the abyss I'll fall - the eye of Horus Into the eyes of the night - watching me go Green is the cat's eye that glows - in this temple Enter the risen Osiris - risen again - Dickinson

>I assume if a tournament game times out, and you are still alive, you >gain 1.5 VP's? Just to clarify for myself. Correct. Note however that you do not get the Gambit Accepted VP back if you successfully withdraw (since the card leaves play at that time). Halcyan 2

[ quoted text not captured ] Correct. [ quoted text not captured ] Correct. It would probably be better to award the predator the gambit VP on your withdrawal, to maintain the zero-sumness of the game. I'll put it on the RT list, but given the prevalence of withdrawing (and the chances of wanting to do so after playing Gambit Accepted), it may not rise to the errata level. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:<3ED88F98...@white-wolf.com>... > Halcyan 2 wrote: > >>I assume if a tournament game times out, and you are still alive, you > >>gain 1.5 VP's? Just to clarify for myself. > > Correct. > > Correct. > > > Note however that you do not get the Gambit Accepted VP back if you > > successfully withdraw (since the card leaves play at that time). > > Correct. It would probably be better to award the predator the > gambit VP on your withdrawal, to maintain the zero-sumness of > the game. I'll put it on the RT list, but given the prevalence of > withdrawing (and the chances of wanting to do so after playing > Gambit Accepted), it may not rise to the errata level. It seems more sensible to me to make you get the VP back if you withdraw. Withdrawing is pretty darn hard anyway and you still wouldn't want to do it anyway (probably) (given a position where you can pass a tur without losing blood/pool and are getting a pool from your prey each turn!). Your predator most certainly doesn't deserve a VP for letting you leave play either. Just my oh so humble opinion.

Timlagor wrote: > It seems more sensible to me to make you get the VP back if you > withdraw. Withdrawing is pretty darn hard anyway and you still > wouldn't want to do it anyway (probably) (given a position where you > can pass a tur without losing blood/pool and are getting a pool from > your prey each turn!). Your predator most certainly doesn't deserve a > VP for letting you leave play either. If you want a VP for withdrawing, you shouldn't play Gambit Accepted. It's your risk; your predator didn't foist it on you. It seems more reasonable to give your predator the VP if she forces you to withdraw after you voluntarily take the gambit. [ quoted text not captured ]

LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:<3EDCA12C...@white-wolf.com>... > Timlagor wrote: > > It seems more sensible to me to make you get the VP back if you > > withdraw. Withdrawing is pretty darn hard anyway and you still > > wouldn't want to do it anyway (probably) (given a position where you > > can pass a tur without losing blood/pool and are getting a pool from > > your prey each turn!). Your predator most certainly doesn't deserve a > > VP for letting you leave play either. > > If you want a VP for withdrawing, you shouldn't play Gambit Accepted. > It's your risk; your predator didn't foist it on you. > It seems more reasonable to give your predator the VP if she forces > you to withdraw after you voluntarily take the gambit. Well that's one way to make withdrawing easier I suppose...