Q: Skin of the Night and Rotschreck

This question has probably been answered before but here it goes, it happened during the last play evening: 1. I bleed my predator with a vampire 2. He blocks 3. I play skin of the night 4. He plays a wolf claw and rötschreck Does my vampire go to torpor? Does "the skin of the night" aggrevated damage text hit in before he plays rotschreck? Daniel Eriksson Sweden

Daniel Eriksson wrote: [ quoted text not captured ] You go to torpor. Rötschreck doesn't care how you'll treat/prevent/avoid the damage, only that agg damage is being attempted to be inflicted on you by the opposing minion. -- LSJ (vtesr...@TRAPwhite-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep (remove spam trap to reply) Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

"LSJ" <vtesr...@TRAPwhite-wolf.com> wrote in message news:EVXVd.971$CW2...@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net... [ quoted text not captured ] When we assumed right when we played, just wanted to double check since our meta game is really really combat heavy with lots of agg damage from Gangrel and such nasty folks

On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 11:47:48 GMT, LSJ <vtesr...@TRAPwhite-wolf.com> wrote: >> Does my vampire go to torpor? Does "the skin of the night" aggrevated >> damage text hit in before he plays rotschreck? > > You go to torpor. Rötschreck doesn't care how you'll treat/prevent/avoid > the damage, only that agg damage is being attempted to be inflicted on > you by the opposing minion. Just to make sure: "treat/prevent/avoid" includes "being immune to", right? -- Bye, Daneel

"Daneel" <dan...@eposta.hu> wrote in message news:opsm38uk...@news.chello.hu... [ quoted text not captured ] Yes. If you'd be immune to it, Rötschreck doesn't notice. The opposing minion is still attempting to inflict agg damage on you, and that's all that Rötschreck cares about (and it not being Rötschreck's player's turn, etc. :-) -- LSJ (vtesr...@TRAPwhite-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep (Remove spam trap to reply). V:TES homepage: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/ Though effective, appear to be ineffective -- Sun Tzu

LSJ wrote: > "Daneel" <dan...@eposta.hu> wrote in message news:opsm38uk...@news.chello.hu... > > On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 11:47:48 GMT, LSJ <vtesr...@TRAPwhite-wolf.com> > > wrote: > > > > >> Does my vampire go to torpor? Does "the skin of the night" aggrevated > > >> damage text hit in before he plays rotschreck? > > > > > > You go to torpor. Rötschreck doesn't care how you'll treat/prevent/avoid > > > the damage, only that agg damage is being attempted to be inflicted on > > > you by the opposing minion. > > > > Just to make sure: "treat/prevent/avoid" includes "being immune to", right? > > > Yes. If you'd be immune to it, Rötschreck doesn't notice. The opposing minion > is still attempting to inflict agg damage on you, and that's all that > Rötschreck cares about (and it not being Rötschreck's player's turn, etc. :-) > As far as i know the only way to evade rotschreck is that the aggravated damage is out of range to efectively inflict the damage, and that the strength of the minion playing rotschreck is equal or bellow than zero

"ThE OnLy VipeR" <fina...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1109946589.5...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > As far as i know the only way to evade rotschreck is that the > aggravated damage is out of range to efectively inflict the damage, and > that the strength of the minion playing rotschreck is equal or bellow > than zero If the minion opposing the vampire is not attempting to inflict (one or more points of) aggravated damage on the vampire, then yes, the conditions for playing Rötschreck aren't met, so Rötschreck cannot be played. Frenzy immunity will also prevent Rötschreck from being played (e.g., Sire's Index Finger). Canceling Rötschreck as it is played (e.g., Sudden Reversal) will "evade" it in some sense. Continuing the combat (e.g. Telepathic Tracking) or starting a new combat (e.g., Psyche!) will "evade" it in a lesser sense (the card is still put on the victim vampire, so he won't untap next untap phase, but he will avoid going to torpor by disrupting the "end combat and go to torpor" effect). [ quoted text not captured ]