Haven Affinity & Ian Forrestal??

Even though the Tremere Antitribu are extinct can Ian Forrestal & Haven Affinity be exploited by clan impersonating Ian into a Tzimici and Giving him the Haven Affinity so that he now has Every Discipline at Superior when in combat from blocking?

In article <3A0F85A7...@nevada.edu>, [ quoted text not captured ] I thought of this, but my group and i came up with because he doesn't have the disciplines, but can merely play cards as if he did, no this doesn't help him, as an added problem, all the disciplines he ever can "have", the three tremere, or others via card, are already at superior. To bad, would have been a fun read: 'broken' combo Cameron Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

can Ian Forrestal & > Haven > > Affinity be exploited by clan impersonating Ian into a Tzimici and > > Giving him the Haven Affinity so that he now has Every Discipline at > > Superior when in combat from blocking? I thought of this, but my group and i came up with because he doesn't > have the disciplines, but can merely play cards as if he did, no this > doesn't help him, as an added problem, all the disciplines he ever > can "have", the three tremere, or others via card, are already at > superior. To bad, would have been a fun read: 'broken' combo hey speaking of weird combos with clan impersonation, does anyone think that the oldie but goodie, masika impersonating malkavian with a madness network in play is a good (read: broken) idea... what exactly could he do??? -spinney ===--===--= [ quoted text not captured ]

inr...@my-deja.com wrote: > Bradley Ward <wa...@nevada.edu> wrote: > > can Ian Forrestal & Haven > > Affinity be exploited by clan impersonating Ian into a Tzimici and > > Giving him the Haven Affinity so that he now has Every Discipline at > > Superior when in combat from blocking? > I thought of this, but my group and i came up with because he doesn't > have the disciplines, but can merely play cards as if he did, no this > doesn't help him, as an added problem, all the disciplines he ever > can "have", the three tremere, or others via card, are already at > superior. To bad, would have been a fun read: 'broken' combo Correct. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

In article <8uo5q7$99d$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, [ quoted text not captured ] It is called Masika's Mad Harem and it is a deadly combonation in but is extremely vulnerable to rush. I recommend lots of Manuvers, Zoe, Victoria, and Dancing Dana as well. Comments Welcome, Norman S. Brown Jr. XZealot Archon of the Swamp [ quoted text not captured ]

On Mon, 13 Nov 2000 spin...@my-deja.com wrote: > hey speaking of weird combos with clan impersonation, does anyone think > that the oldie but goodie, masika impersonating malkavian with a madness > network in play is a good (read: broken) idea... The "Mad Masika's Harem" type decks can be fun, but certainly aren't broken. Broken tends to be reserved for "This is very powerful, hard to defend against and cheap." -- James Coupe | PGP Key 0x5D623D5D "Steve: Yeah, well that's one of the advantages of being a sad, lonely fairy, I guess. You get to learn how to be a spy." - Stephen Fry, Making History

On Mon, 13 Nov 2000 16:22:08 +0000, James Coupe <jr...@cam.ac.uk> wrote: >On Mon, 13 Nov 2000 spin...@my-deja.com wrote: >> hey speaking of weird combos with clan impersonation, does anyone think >> that the oldie but goodie, masika impersonating malkavian with a madness >> network in play is a good (read: broken) idea... > >The "Mad Masika's Harem" type decks can be fun, but certainly aren't >broken. > >Broken tends to be reserved for "This is very powerful, hard to defend >against and cheap." You forgot "and easy to get set up and rolling." Clan impersonating Masika AND getting the MadNet in play AND getting the Assault Rifle on him so that he doesn't go "pop" like a ripe balloon... that is not 'easy to get set up and rolling'. Once you GET it there, it's very powerful and hard to defend against, since he stops everything you do, bleeds for 10 a turn, and blows your head off if you block him. But it's tricky to get there. -- Derek Jack-Booted Thug of Atlanta "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge." - C. Darwin, 1871

[ quoted text not captured ] I've always been a fan of the "Texas Chainsaw Masika" deck; add Talbot's on top of it all. The problem with Talbot's is getting the 3 blood or a minion every turn to pay for it. In a 6 player game, you can get the Chainsaw and go after 5 people before paying the 3, not to mention the people Masika blocks trying to take out the Madness Network. If you can find a good target with 3 blood and have a Taste of Vitae in hand, you can more than get back the 3 by the time your turn comes around. This can be fun, but is hardly devastating (read: broken) the setup is long and involved, and with as much animalism is in our group these days, I've give poor Masika about 2 combats before someone ripped out a Canine Horde to piss in his Cheerios. =) -- Pat Ricochet Soul Jar'rn Fool of Atlanta

On Mon, 13 Nov 2000 17:28:15 -0500, Pat Ricochet <sp...@socrates.gatech.edu> wrote: > This can be fun, but is hardly devastating (read: broken) the setup is >long and involved, and with as much animalism is in our group these days, >I've give poor Masika about 2 combats before someone ripped out a Canine >Horde to piss in his Cheerios. =) Canine Horde, hell. The last time I trundled out my Talbot's deck, it was vaporized after one turn of use by an Anarch Troublemaker. Which certainly saved my vampires a lot of blood, but also sort of pulled the teeth out of the deck. Messy. [ quoted text not captured ]

In article <kjk11tcgkk8mrok4m...@4ax.com>, Derek Ray <lor...@yahoo.com> wrote: >On Mon, 13 Nov 2000 17:28:15 -0500, Pat Ricochet ><sp...@socrates.gatech.edu> wrote: >> This can be fun, but is hardly devastating (read: broken) the setup is >>long and involved, and with as much animalism is in our group these days, >>I've give poor Masika about 2 combats before someone ripped out a Canine >>Horde to piss in his Cheerios. =) >Canine Horde, hell. The last time I trundled out my Talbot's deck, it >was vaporized after one turn of use by an Anarch Troublemaker. >Which certainly saved my vampires a lot of blood, but also sort of >pulled the teeth out of the deck. Messy. Need I point out Giovanni=Necromancy=Whispers from the Dead? Or heck, even multiple copies of Talbot's and Vast Wealth, or Patrizia and Magic of the Smith? gomi yeah, you gotta pay for it again, but still -- "I wanted to feel that tug of a body as it jerks and kicks while I hold the handle and the life erupts from it like water from the cold springs of the Eastern Mountains. That's what I wanted, and what you want makes you who you are." - Steven Brust, Teckla

> In article <kjk11tcgkk8mrok4m...@4ax.com>, > Derek Ray <lor...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> On Mon, 13 Nov 2000 17:28:15 -0500, Pat Ricochet >> <sp...@socrates.gatech.edu> wrote: > >>> This can be fun, but is hardly devastating (read: broken) the setup is >>> long and involved, and with as much animalism is in our group these days, >>> I've give poor Masika about 2 combats before someone ripped out a Canine >>> Horde to piss in his Cheerios. =) > >> Canine Horde, hell. The last time I trundled out my Talbot's deck, it >> was vaporized after one turn of use by an Anarch Troublemaker. > >> Which certainly saved my vampires a lot of blood, but also sort of >> pulled the teeth out of the deck. Messy. > > Need I point out Giovanni=Necromancy=Whispers from the Dead? > Or heck, even multiple copies of Talbot's and Vast Wealth, or Patrizia > and Magic of the Smith? Well, but it wasn't a Giovanni Talbot's deck. Amazing, I know, but Derek tries whatever he can to be something no one else has done, and our group sees plenty enough Giovanni from me every week. > gomi > yeah, you gotta pay for it again, but still Unless you use Ambrosius, of course, but that's been done to death. =) [ quoted text not captured ]

> Need I point out Giovanni=Necromancy=Whispers from the Dead? > Or heck, even multiple copies of Talbot's and Vast Wealth, or Patrizia > and Magic of the Smith? > > gomi > yeah, you gotta pay for it again, but still > wait, is that a valid use for patrizia... must... reach... couch... before... fainting.... Still totally unreliable without more thauma... but. <grin> Cameron [ quoted text not captured ]

In article <B636460E.951%sp...@socrates.gatech.edu>, Pat Ricochet <sp...@socrates.gatech.edu> wrote: > Well, but it wasn't a Giovanni Talbot's deck. Amazing, I know, but >Derek tries whatever he can to be something no one else has done, and our >group sees plenty enough Giovanni from me every week. Aah. Gotcha. >> yeah, you gotta pay for it again, but still > Unless you use Ambrosius, of course, but that's been done to death. =) Well, I meant the pool, but yeah. gomi [ quoted text not captured ]

> In article <B636460E.951%sp...@socrates.gatech.edu>, > Pat Ricochet <sp...@socrates.gatech.edu> wrote: > >> Well, but it wasn't a Giovanni Talbot's deck. Amazing, I know, but >> Derek tries whatever he can to be something no one else has done, and our >> group sees plenty enough Giovanni from me every week. > > Aah. Gotcha. > >>> yeah, you gotta pay for it again, but still >> Unless you use Ambrosius, of course, but that's been done to death. =) > > Well, I meant the pool, but yeah. Heh..uh..whoops! Ironically, I think the deck had the Restoration/Blood Doll thing going to get the 3 back every turn, and some pool gain, so "paying for it again" was just another 3, what with Blood Dolls allowing you to "shuffle the books" and make blood look like pool and vice versa. Of course, as Derek said, the Anarch Troublemaker popped up so fast that he basically had to wall up, so I still can't really say what the deck was supposed to do. By the time he got another Talbot's in hand, the Troublemaker was back to me and waiting. I don't even recall if it was my Troublemaker or not; everyone seems to play with it these days (round 'bout these parts, that is) [ quoted text not captured ]

In article <B636517A.95E%sp...@socrates.gatech.edu>, Pat Ricochet <sp...@socrates.gatech.edu> wrote: [ quoted text not captured ] Plus, the rewritten Misdirection makes Anarch Troublemaker more valuable, more so with Sabbat War's equipment-boosting cards. I could see a Ventrue tap-n-bleed with multiple Anarch Troublemakers and Praxis Solomon. Use the Troublemaker, contest it next turn, then Solomon it back into your control. Season with Thanks for the Donation. [ quoted text not captured ]

On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, Derek Ray wrote: > Canine Horde, hell. The last time I trundled out my Talbot's deck, it > was vaporized after one turn of use by an Anarch Troublemaker. *giggles* *notes that one down to laugh at later* [ quoted text not captured ]

On 14 Nov 2000 06:17:13 GMT, go...@best.com (Gomi no Sensei) wrote: >In article <kjk11tcgkk8mrok4m...@4ax.com>, >Derek Ray <lor...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>On Mon, 13 Nov 2000 17:28:15 -0500, Pat Ricochet >><sp...@socrates.gatech.edu> wrote: > >>> This can be fun, but is hardly devastating (read: broken) the setup is >>>long and involved, and with as much animalism is in our group these days, >>>I've give poor Masika about 2 combats before someone ripped out a Canine >>>Horde to piss in his Cheerios. =) > >>Canine Horde, hell. The last time I trundled out my Talbot's deck, it >>was vaporized after one turn of use by an Anarch Troublemaker. > >>Which certainly saved my vampires a lot of blood, but also sort of >>pulled the teeth out of the deck. Messy. > >Need I point out Giovanni=Necromancy=Whispers from the Dead? >Or heck, even multiple copies of Talbot's and Vast Wealth, or Patrizia >and Magic of the Smith? > >gomi >yeah, you gotta pay for it again, but still That was, in this case, the problem. I had a second Talbot's in hand, but I was somewhere floating at around 7 pool, and was definitely in NO shape to be paying for another one. I had some decent blood gain floating around, so I figured I'd hang out and give it a run at things. [ quoted text not captured ]

Better put the Haven affinity on Violette Prentis, You should get an exemplary girlfriend for Sascha Vykos. And her nice power would come alive ! reyda > inr...@my-deja.com wrote: > > Bradley Ward <wa...@nevada.edu> wrote: [ quoted text not captured ]

In article <8uvdc1$23lk$1...@news5.isdnet.net>, "Reyda" <re...@noos.fr> wrote: > Better put the Haven affinity on Violette Prentis, You should get an > exemplary girlfriend for Sascha Vykos. And her nice power would come alive ! > > reyda could be fun on Vincent Day :) [ quoted text not captured ]

"cantila" <rogc...@student.luth.se> a écrit dans le message news: 8uvs48$k98$1...@nnrp1.deja.com... > In article <8uvdc1$23lk$1...@news5.isdnet.net>, > "Reyda" <re...@noos.fr> wrote: > > Better put the Haven affinity on Violette Prentis, You should get an > > exemplary girlfriend for Sascha Vykos. And her nice power would come > alive ! > > > > reyda > > could be fun on Vincent Day :) If you clan impersonate him,of course ! ;)

>> > Better put the Haven affinity on Violette Prentis, You should get an >> > exemplary girlfriend for Sascha Vykos. And her nice power would come >> alive ! >> > >> > reyda >> >> could be fun on Vincent Day :) > >If you clan impersonate him,of course ! ;) Wouldn't you have to do the sasme for Violette? Violette Prentis is the 4 cap Ventrue with PRE and dom. Maybe you're thinking Violet Tremain? (6 cap Tzimisce with dom, pre, vis, and tha. Bishop with capacity reducing ability). Halcyan 2

>>> > Better put the Haven affinity on Violette Prentis, You should get an >>> > exemplary girlfriend for Sascha Vykos. And her nice power would come >>> alive ! Oh yeah. Come to think of it, are we sure a "girlfriend" is exactly what Sascha is looking for? A lot of Tzimisice are a bit ambiguous, but Sascha takes this to an entirely new level! Halcyan 2

Ah, you're right, I meant Violet Tremain !!! with such a large array of names, how do we come to have 2 violet(te), 2 Lolita, 2 Ian, 2 Ingrid, 2 Roland, 2 Victor, 2 Sarah 1 Fransisco, 1 Francisca, 1 Fransiscus, 1 Harika & 1 Arika, 1 Lazar & 1 Lazarus and other very close & somtime confusing names... By the way, yes, Sascha could be happier with Vincent Day as a very close relative... "Halcyan 2" <halc...@aol.com> a écrit dans le message news: 20001116053806...@ng-cs1.aol.com... [ quoted text not captured ]

Yes, I'm waiting for them to start naming vampires like: Joe, the Mundane. Bob, the Oridnary. Regular Jenny and of course Plain Jane. -Brian "Reyda" <re...@noos.fr> wrote in message news:8v0pb4$276s$1...@news6.isdnet.net... [ quoted text not captured ]