Brinkmanship Question

I'd be grateful for some help on a question about Brinkmanship. This is the situation. Methuselah A has 6 cards in hand, nothing in library. He preys on Meth B. Methuselah B has a half-full library. He preys on Meth C. Methuselah C's library is empty, he has 6 cards in hand. It is B's turn. B calls and passes Brinkmanship. His turn ends. C's turn begins. He is obliged to withdraw by Brinkmanship. He declares intention, the turn ends. A's turn begins. He is obliged to withdraw by Brinkmanship. He declares intention, the turn ends. B's turn. Army of Rats burns 1 pool from C in his untap. The turn ends. C's turn begins, he has failed to withdraw and is ousted by Brinkmanship. A's turn begins. He successfully withdraws. B is then ousted by Brinkmanship. My questions are: 1. Does B receive a victory point for being the last Methuselah in the game? (After A has withdrawn but before the Brinkmanship triggers) 2. Does A receive a victory point for B being ousted by the Brinkmanship? Fundamentally, are the withdrawal of a Methuselah and the ousting of the controller of Brinkmanship a simultaenous ousting or separate events? Thanks, Phil

"Phil Mattingly" <philma...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message news:94216c83.04072...@posting.google.com... > I'd be grateful for some help on a question about Brinkmanship. This > is the situation. > > Methuselah A has 6 cards in hand, nothing in library. He preys on Meth > B. Assume: A has a hand size of 7 or more. > > Methuselah B has a half-full library. He preys on Meth C. > > Methuselah C's library is empty, he has 6 cards in hand. Assume: C has a hand size of 7 or more. > It is B's turn. B calls and passes Brinkmanship. His turn ends. > > C's turn begins. He is obliged to withdraw by Brinkmanship. He > declares intention, the turn ends. C is free to take his turn as normal, of course. > A's turn begins. He is obliged to withdraw by Brinkmanship. He > declares intention, the turn ends. A can take his turn as normal, as well. > B's turn. Army of Rats burns 1 pool from C in his untap. The turn > ends. > > C's turn begins, he has failed to withdraw and is ousted by > Brinkmanship. OK. > A's turn begins. He successfully withdraws. B is then ousted by > Brinkmanship. B is not ousted. The game ends when A withdraws, since there is only one Methuselah left. > My questions are: > > 1. Does B receive a victory point for being the last Methuselah in the > game? (After A has withdrawn but before the Brinkmanship triggers) Yes. > 2. Does A receive a victory point for B being ousted by the > Brinkmanship? No. > Fundamentally, are the withdrawal of a Methuselah and the ousting of > the controller of Brinkmanship a simultaenous ousting or separate > events? Separate. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

> Fundamentally, are the withdrawal of a Methuselah and the ousting of > the controller of Brinkmanship a simultaenous ousting or separate > events? Here, this seems familiar... Sam 'C' Marsh