rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

[Question] Cloak & Chains(aw)

3 messages from 3 participants · 13 November 1995 – 14 November 1995
original thread on Google Groups

Terry Wright

During our last play session, a few questions came up. I would greatly appreciate any answers. 1) Does Talbot's chainsaw FORCE an untapped, ready vampire to attack? 2) Given that a vampire can not play multiple action modifier cards of the same type, can a person who has two Vampires with superior obfuscate play two Cloak the Gatherings on a third vampire? (His argument being that Vampire A is playing Cloak on Vampire C, and Vampire B is playing Cloak on Vampire C, so the rule is not violated.) Thanx for any help. Terry Wright | "No man does as much today as aa...@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca | he is going to do tomorrow." Saskatoon, Saskatchewan | - Robert Edwards, 1912 Canada

Algustas

Hi Terry, I'm not sure about your first question, but I can definitely answer your second question. On 13 Nov 1995, Terry Wright wrote: > During our last play session, a few questions came up. I would > greatly appreciate any answers. > > 1) Does Talbot's chainsaw FORCE an untapped, ready vampire to attack? I know the answer to this is yes, but I can't quote you the ruling. > 2) Given that a vampire can not play multiple action modifier cards of > the same type, can a person who has two Vampires with superior obfuscate > play two Cloak the Gatherings on a third vampire? (His argument being > that Vampire A is playing Cloak on Vampire C, and Vampire B is playing > Cloak on Vampire C, so the rule is not violated.) His reasoning is correct. Vampire C could also play it on herself, if she had at least low level Obfuscate. I don't think there was ever an official ruling to this, since the rules state a minion may only play one...blah blah blah, however, Tom has jumped in a few times to clarify this point. > > Thanx for any help. > > Terry Wright | "No man does as much today as > aa...@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca | he is going to do tomorrow." > Saskatoon, Saskatchewan | - Robert Edwards, 1912 > Canada > Algustas *****Your kind are all vermin and when the Heretic is dead you will all be cleansed from the planet surface! But you will be cleansed now!***** Arioc, Out of the Vortex #1 *****Human, depart this chamber. The energies that are about to be discharged here are not conducive to your existence.***** Vortex, Out of the Vortex #1

L. Scott Johnson

In article <4887pc$9...@tribune.usask.ca>, Terry Wright <aa...@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca> wrote: > During our last play session, a few questions came up. I would >greatly appreciate any answers. > >1) Does Talbot's chainsaw FORCE an untapped, ready vampire to attack? Yes. From: aa...@cats.ucsc.edu (Thomas R Wylie) Newsgroups: rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad Subject: Re: Chantry-Leave Torpor at Stealth? Date: 12 Apr 1995 11:19:16 GMT Message-ID: <3mgcvk$a...@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Talbot's Chainsaw implicitly says that using it to attack is mandatory. >2) Given that a vampire can not play multiple action modifier cards of >the same type, can a person who has two Vampires with superior obfuscate >play two Cloak the Gatherings on a third vampire? (His argument being >that Vampire A is playing Cloak on Vampire C, and Vampire B is playing >Cloak on Vampire C, so the rule is not violated.) Certainly (note that the section in the rulebook stating "only one of a given action modifier per methuselah" has been errata'ed to say "minion") From: aa...@cats.ucsc.edu (Thomas R Wylie) Newsgroups: rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad Subject: DESIGN TEAM RULINGS: 5/9/95 Date: 9 May 1995 07:17:48 GMT Message-ID: <3on4us$l...@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> 2) Sections 7.2.2 and 14.4 have conflicting statement about how many times an action modifier may be played during a single action. Section 7.2.2 is correct; the same *minion* may only play a given action modifier once, but potentially each minion controlled by a player may use the same card to modify an action. This means that all of your vampires may play Cloak the Gathering on the same action (assuming they all have superior obfuscate), that an action modifier can be repeated if Mask of 1000 Faces is used, and so on. -- ----- L. Scott Johnson (lsc...@crl.com) | The opinions expressed are mine Graphics Specialist and V:tES Rulemonger | and subject to card text