rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Multi-rush and NRA

4 messages from 4 participants · 13 November 2002
original thread on Google Groups

Petri Wessman

Ok, so let me get this straight: the new NRA limits actions from a card in play to one per turn. So a vampire with a built-in "attack minion as (D) action" (Wynn, etc) would be a card in play, and would only he able to use his/her built-in rush once per turn. Right? As far as I've understood from conversations on this newsgroup, the wording of Archon and Templar ("Successful referendum makes the vampire an X. An X may enter combat with...") gives a rush ability that is tied to the keyword/title of Templar or Archon, and is therefore not limited to once per turn. Still correct? Any other cards and/or loopholes in the game that give this multi-rush ability? If not, I don't see this as being too abusive, you still have to both make the vampire a Templar/Archon and have the capability for multiple actions per turn. Nice if you can set it up, but votes from a combat deck should not be too impossible to prevent - if the deck is focused on passing the votes, it probably won't have too much offensive capability, leading to the multi-rush being not too scary. I could be wrong, of course ;) //Petri

LSJ

Petri Wessman wrote: > > Ok, so let me get this straight: the new NRA limits actions from a > card in play to one per turn. So a vampire with a built-in "attack > minion as (D) action" (Wynn, etc) would be a card in play, and would > only he able to use his/her built-in rush once per turn. Right? Right. > As far as I've understood from conversations on this newsgroup, the > wording of Archon and Templar ("Successful referendum makes the > vampire an X. An X may enter combat with...") gives a rush ability > that is tied to the keyword/title of Templar or Archon, and is therefore > not limited to once per turn. Still correct? Yes. > Any other cards and/or loopholes in the game that give this multi-rush > ability? None uncovered so far. > If not, I don't see this as being too abusive, you still have to both > make the vampire a Templar/Archon and have the capability for multiple > actions per turn. Nice if you can set it up, but votes from a combat > deck should not be too impossible to prevent - if the deck is focused > on passing the votes, it probably won't have too much offensive > capability, leading to the multi-rush being not too scary. I could be > wrong, of course ;) > > //Petri -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

freakdrivr

> > > As far as I've understood from conversations on this newsgroup, the > > wording of Archon and Templar ("Successful referendum makes the > > vampire an X. An X may enter combat with...") gives a rush ability > > that is tied to the keyword/title of Templar or Archon, and is therefore > > not limited to once per turn. Still correct? > > Yes. interesting... do you anticipate this cards' text being changed then? I DO see this being abused... A LOT. I know i'm going to. I guess we wait for the decks to rape tables... btw LSJ, great job on CE... looking at the set now after a couple of months, it's SOLID and the grouping brings everyone (mostly new players) up to speed with vamp selection. (tho i don't want to get into a grouping discussion, again...) can't wait for the Anarchs after that please bring out another SABBAT expansion... jds

Sten During

freakdrivr wrote: >>>As far as I've understood from conversations on this newsgroup, the >>>wording of Archon and Templar ("Successful referendum makes the >>>vampire an X. An X may enter combat with...") gives a rush ability >>>that is tied to the keyword/title of Templar or Archon, and is therefore >>>not limited to once per turn. Still correct? >> >>Yes. > > > interesting... > > do you anticipate this cards' text being changed then? I DO see this > being abused... A LOT. I know i'm going to. I guess we wait for the > decks to rape tables... It works, but it takes too much time to set up and has too many moving parts. I have managed to set up Anson with a Fortitude Master and Toreador Grand Ball. Once in a blue moon he gets both his Assault Rifle out, becomes Archon and starts picking his targets. Hilarious when it works. If you want to try it I think that Anabelle Triabell and Madame Guil might be an unfriendly couple to become the backbone of a deck as you free out the Master Fortitude slots. Sten During