rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Form of Mist Timing Question

10 messages from 4 participants · 26 August 2004 – 27 August 2004
original thread on Google Groups

bswai...@gmail.com

If I play Form of Mist at supperior when do I have to decide if I'm going to play my blood and continue? Do I have to pay (or not) as I play the strike? As the strike resolves? Can I decide after combat? After combat and after my opponent does't play Psyche or Cats Guidance? -Ben Swainbank

Colin McGuigan

bswai...@hotmial.com wrote: > If I play Form of Mist at supperior when do I have to decide if I'm > going to play my blood and continue? > > Do I have to pay (or not) as I play the strike? As the strike > resolves? The blood for Form of Mist can be paid as an after combat effect. http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=3FC0DCE0.7010402%40white-wolf.com > Can I decide after combat? Yes. > After combat and after my opponent > does't play Psyche or Cats Guidance? No. As the acting minion, you can play your effects first. If you pass and your opponent plays an effect, then you can play another one, but if you pass and your opponent passes, you're SOL. And Psyche! still beats FoM. --Colin McGuigan

LSJ

"bswai...@hotmial.com" <bswai...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:3a75f66d.04082...@posting.google.com... [ quoted text not captured ] After combat. After Psyche! window. Before Cats' Guidance window. Google: "Mist choose author:LSJ" -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. V:TES homepage: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/ Though effective, appear to be ineffective -- Sun Tzu

Darby Keeney

bswai...@gmail.com (bswai...@hotmial.com) wrote in message news:<3a75f66d.04082...@posting.google.com>... > If I play Form of Mist at supperior when do I have to decide if I'm > going to play my blood and continue? > -Ben Swainbank Heya Ben. As with most other combat cards and action modifiers, you pay all blood costs and make all decisions required as the card is played. Exceptions may arise from card text, or phase requirements for effects from a card (e.g., the press from Flash at [CEL]), but that does not apply with FoM at [PRO]. The blocking minion has the option to Cat's Guidance at [ani] after the first combat is finished - which is after you have already made your choice during the combat. Of course, the good news is that the blocker is restricted from playing another Cat's Guidance at [ANI] for the intercept needed to catch your newly stealth-enchanced action. Regards, Darby

Colin McGuigan

Darby Keeney wrote: > As with most other combat cards and action modifiers, you pay all > blood costs and make all decisions required as the card is played. That's true, but when the card text is along the lines of, "This vampire may...", then that decision can be put off till a later point. Eg, superior Chiropterean Marauder. You can play it at the beginning of the round, but hold off on paying the blood until, eg, just before strike resolution. --Colin McGuigan

LSJ

"Colin McGuigan" <magu...@BGONEspeakeasy.net> wrote in message news:ZN2dnQumXrt...@speakeasy.net... [ quoted text not captured ] Unless otherwise noted on the card, the effect only applies during resolution. Chiropteran Marauder (superior) can be played at any time and the vampire may choose not to pay, but he may choose to pay only at the time the card is played. [ quoted text not captured ]

Colin McGuigan

LSJ wrote: > Unless otherwise noted on the card, the effect only applies during > resolution. Chiropteran Marauder (superior) can be played at any time and > the vampire may choose not to pay, but he may choose to pay only at the > time the card is played. Oooooh, then li'l Emmit Svenson is wrong, wrong, wrong! How come the choose-to-pay on Form of Mist can wait until after combat, then, instead of being made when the strike resolves? --Colin McGuigan

LSJ

"Colin McGuigan" <magu...@BGONEspeakeasy.net> wrote in message news:3uSdnQgjtOQ...@speakeasy.net... > How come the choose-to-pay on Form of Mist can wait until after combat, > then, instead of being made when the strike resolves? Continuing the action after combat ends is part of the resolution. [ quoted text not captured ]

Darby Keeney

Colin McGuigan <magu...@BGONEspeakeasy.net> wrote in message news:<ZN2dnQumXrt...@speakeasy.net>... > Darby Keeney wrote: > > As with most other combat cards and action modifiers, you pay all > > blood costs and make all decisions required as the card is played. > > That's true, but when the card text is along the lines of, "This vampire > may...", then that decision can be put off till a later point. > > --Colin McGuigan Egad. Someday, I'll learn to keep my mouth shut (though having put my foot in it, I guess I won't forget this ruling).

Colin McGuigan

Darby Keeney wrote: > Egad. > > Someday, I'll learn to keep my mouth shut (though having put my foot > in it, I guess I won't forget this ruling). S'ok. While you were wrong on FoM, I was wrong in my correction of you, so maybe it's a lesson we'll both learn. =P --Colin McGuigan