rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Q: Daemonic Possession and temporary control

7 messages from 5 participants · 14 October 2008 – 15 October 2008
original thread on Google Groups

stefans...@gmail.com

If I gain temporary control of a vampire (Temptation, Spirit Marionette etc.) and manage to burn it during my control, can I then play Daemonic Possession to gain control of it? Daemonic Possession Type: Action Requires: Necromancy Cost: 2 blood [nec] Only usable when a minion controlled by another Methuselah has been burned since your last turn. Move that minion from his owner's ash heap to your ready region, put 1 blood or life from the blood bank on the minion and tap the minion. You now control the minion. [NEC] As above, but the minion is untapped. / Stefan Karlsson

Chris Berger

[ quoted text not captured ] I highly doubt it, because the minion was not "controlled by another Methuselah" when it was burned. Nor was it or is it controlled by another methuselah at any point after that, not that that would matter, IMHO.

Pullen

[ quoted text not captured ] I'm no LSJ but I would say no, the first line checks to see if you controlled the vamp when it burned (Only usable when a minion controlled by another Methuselah has been burned since your last turn) and you did.

Felix

really? Far be it for me to doubt you, but i distantly remember a ruling that when a card leavs the controlled region all temporary control effects are instantly broken? So when it "burns" its already back to the original controler, and enters his ash heap and could be targetted with deamonic possesion?

LSJ

[ quoted text not captured ] I guess that'd be a philosophical question about existence. As far as the game is concerned, the card doesn't leave the controlled region until it is burned. It doesn't leave first and then get burned, since there's no effect to make it leave before getting burned (the burning is the effect that makes it leave).

Chris Berger

[ quoted text not captured ] Again, IANALSJ, but temporary control effect are instantly broken *when* the card leaves the ready region. Not before. It's not like the minion goes back to the original controller and *then* burns. It burns, temporary control effects are broken, and it is put in its owner's ash heap. Tension in the Ranks, for example, would not cause the original controller to burn a pool.

stefans...@gmail.com

[ quoted text not captured ] > Correct.- Dölj citerad text - > > - Visa citerad text - That was what I suspected. Thanks. / Stefan Karlsson